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From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Favorite UNIX
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 08:17:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfq_fuk+3C3Nk7M53FGpGq-oQoPjkV4eOupOB9=3tFB9=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1710020135340.6255@waffle.shalott.net>

Good talk. Best quote...

"Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison."

Warner

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:44 AM, <jason-tuhs at shalott.net> wrote:

>
>    > Solaris: so bad I left the company.
>>>
>>
> Why was Solaris so much worse than SunOS?
>>>
>>
> But that was a kick in the nuts to us engineers.  The sytem v source base
>> was crap compared to sunos, a huge step backwards.
>>
>> So my crowd pretty much all left in disgust.  There was a lot of
>> heartache over it.  None of us knew about the business deal at the time, in
>> fact I think a lot of management didn't know.
>> [...]
>> Instead, they repeated the SunOS journey.  Bryan and crew polished that
>> turd for years and got it sort of reasonable. [...] but they went for it
>> and got it better.  Only to have it tossed away again.  Yuck.
>>
>
> For anyone who hasn't seen it, there's a pretty good talk that gives the
> two-minute version of what Larry has described, and then picks up the story
> from there and runs with it over the next twentyish years:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc
>
>
>  -Jason
>
>
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-01 17:51 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-01 18:05 ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01 18:39   ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02  8:44   ` jason-tuhs
2017-10-02 11:52     ` Kevin Bowling
2017-10-02 14:17     ` Warner Losh [this message]
2017-10-01 18:13 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01 20:15 ` Steve Mynott
2017-10-01 21:21   ` Jon Steinhart
2017-10-01 23:28     ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02  0:36     ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <mailman.1424.1506881102.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-10-01 19:09 ` Will Senn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-09-29  2:58 [TUHS] " Kevin Bowling
2017-09-30 15:40 ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 17:53   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-30 18:34     ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 18:45       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01  0:36       ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01  0:51         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-01  1:10           ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01  1:13             ` Cory Smelosky
2017-10-01  3:43             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01 14:07             ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01  3:05       ` Michael Parson
2017-10-01  3:15         ` Kevin Bowling
     [not found]       ` <201710011513.v91FDSMB011831@freefriends.org>
2017-10-01 19:35         ` Michael Parson

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