From: lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: Favorite UNIX
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 17:36:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171002003628.GS16755@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201710012121.v91LLKHK004998@darkstar.fourwinds.com>
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 02:21:20PM -0700, Jon Steinhart wrote:
> Steve Mynott writes:
> > On 1 October 2017 at 18:51, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Why was Solaris so much worse than SunOS?
> >
> > Probably because it was so much more buggy on release and people were
> > more used to BSD and didn't like change and the fact that greedy Sun
> > had removed the compiler. Solaris 2.3 had core dumps from base
> > binaries everywhere where SunOS 4.1.3 seemed quite stable.
>
> I think that the root cause is AT&T USL. When UNIX went from research
> to "product" different people worked on it. And those people seemed to
> lack the artistry, vision, and craftsmanship of the original developers.
> AT&T pushed their SVR4 crud hard onto the rest of the world. Meanwhile,
> the folks at Berkeley produced code more in the original tradition
> possibly because of Ken taking a sabbatical year to teach there. SunOS
> was the result of the pipeline between Berkeley and Sun.
>
> Solaris was the result of Sun abandoning the Berkeley branch for the USL
> branch.
+1 couldn't have put it better.
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-01 17:51 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-01 18:05 ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01 18:39 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02 8:44 ` jason-tuhs
2017-10-02 11:52 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-10-02 14:17 ` Warner Losh
2017-10-01 18:13 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01 20:15 ` Steve Mynott
2017-10-01 21:21 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-10-01 23:28 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02 0:36 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
[not found] <mailman.1424.1506881102.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-10-01 19:09 ` Will Senn
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2017-09-29 2:58 [TUHS] " Kevin Bowling
2017-09-30 15:40 ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 17:53 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-30 18:34 ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 18:45 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01 0:36 ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01 0:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-01 1:10 ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01 1:13 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-10-01 3:43 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01 14:07 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01 3:05 ` Michael Parson
2017-10-01 3:15 ` Kevin Bowling
[not found] ` <201710011513.v91FDSMB011831@freefriends.org>
2017-10-01 19:35 ` Michael Parson
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