From: Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com>
To: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 13:35:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202009102035.08AKZUKh580678@darkstar.fourwinds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2Op9vpgKd3vRPOA8jy5EAR5cxmRfRS799UBi+FJTUhD3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Clem Cole writes:
>
> One of the things I am most proud of as a Board Member and USENIX President
> was going free access during my time. It was bold and scary, but the right
> thing to do. Too bad, IEEE and ACM don't have the same values. A
> paywall is an invisible revenue stream and makes it easy for them to
> 'provide value,' *but they do it one other people's work*. Back when
> publishing was a more expensive thing for them to do, it made *some*
> sense. But it should have been a zero-sum/at-cost game. When it became
> the primary revenue stream for those organizations, is when they fell from
> grace.
I completely agree; I asked both ACM and IEEE if I could at least have access
to their libraries for stuff that I had already paid for and had on paper but
they said no so I dropped my memberships.
Along those lines and in the archeology department, I have boxes of ACM and
IEEE pubs from the maybe 1982-2010 timeframe that are about to get recycled
so if anybody wants 'em, let me know.
Jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-10 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-10 14:13 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2020-09-10 16:02 ` Clem Cole
2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
2020-09-10 16:45 ` Larry McVoy
2020-09-10 20:27 ` Clem Cole
2020-09-10 20:35 ` Jon Steinhart [this message]
2020-09-11 9:40 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-09-11 10:52 ` Edouard Klein
2020-09-12 11:29 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-09-11 18:52 ` John Cowan
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-09-09 23:10 Warren Toomey
2020-09-10 0:24 ` Richard Salz
2020-09-10 6:18 ` arnold
2020-09-10 1:43 ` Dave Horsfall
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