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From: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2020 00:29:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106232901.AkY2I%steffen@sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201106225422.GD99027@eureka.lemis.com>

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote in
 <20201106225422.GD99027@eureka.lemis.com>:
 |On Friday,  6 November 2020 at  7:46:57 -0800, Chris Torek wrote:
 |>> I use single spaces between sentences, but my ancestors
 |>> used 2... who knows why? :).
 |>
 |> Typewriters.
 |>
 |> In typesetting, especially when doing right-margin justification,
 |> we have "stretchy spaces" between words.  The space after end-of-
 |> sentence punctuation marks is supposed to be about 50% larger than
 |> the width of the between-words spaces, and if the word spaces get
 |> stretched, so should the end-of-sentence space.
 |
 |FWIW, this is the US convention.  Other countries have different
 |conventions.  My Ausinfo style manual states
 |
 |  There is no need to increase the amount of punctuation ... at the
 |  end of a sentence.
 |
 |I believe that this also holds for Germany.  I'm not sure that the UK
 |didn't have different rules again.

Yes, the DUDEN of Germany says for typewriters that the
punctuation characters period, comma, semicolon, colon, question-
and exclamation mark are added without separating whitespace.  The
next word follows after a space ("Leerschritt", "void step"). 
However, typewriters often place(d) those characters left in
a cell, so that the visual appearance is accordingly.

In novels around 66 characters is the recommendation i seem to
recall.  I have that in mails, 72 in other text modes, and 79 for
everything else.  (The latter lead to lots of ugly code once
i used tabulators, but different tabulator spacing would have
resulted in different look in $PAGER and $VISUAL, so ...)

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-05 22:10 Tyler Adams
2020-11-06  0:39 ` Kevin Bowling
2020-11-06  1:41 ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06  5:04   ` John Cowan
2020-11-06  5:16     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-11-06  6:34     ` Rob Pike
2020-11-06 13:20       ` Will Senn
2020-11-06 15:07         ` Clem Cole
2020-11-06 15:40           ` Will Senn
2020-11-06 15:46             ` Chris Torek
2020-11-06 22:54               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-11-06 23:29                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2020-11-06 22:31           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-11-06 23:41             ` Warren Toomey
2020-11-06  6:37     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-11-06 15:06       ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06 15:18         ` Bakul Shah
2020-11-06 15:19         ` Chris Torek
2020-11-06 16:46           ` Stephen Clark
2020-11-06 18:51         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-11-06 22:09           ` John Cowan
2020-11-06 22:44             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-11-06 22:12         ` Andy Kosela
2020-11-06 22:23           ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-07  0:16             ` Dave Horsfall
2020-11-08 23:23               ` George Michaelson
2020-11-06 17:05       ` Paul Winalski
2020-11-06 17:07         ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06 17:25           ` Warner Losh
2020-11-06 17:13       ` Adam Thornton
2020-11-06 17:26         ` Stephen Clark
2020-11-06 18:24           ` John Cowan
2020-11-06 21:10   ` Dave Horsfall

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