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From: Mychaela Falconia <falcon@freecalypso.org>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org, phil@ultimate.com
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2024 19:21:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240107032140.BE8393740314@freecalypso.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202401070254.4072swca006665@ultimate.com>

Phil Budne <phil@ultimate.com> wrote:

> FWIW (likely little), CAT-driving troff *was* used to drive other
> printers, and least for the unwashed.

Oh yes, I know!  In the branch of UNIX closest to my heart, CSRG at
UCB had vtroff(1) for driving Varian/Versatec raster output devices
with a CAT-emulating post-processor to original troff.  My recent
discovery of scanned 4.2BSD Usenix docs (thank you, Ms. Erica Fischer,
whoever and wherever you are!) tells me that vtroff(1) for casual
prints plus a real CAT for serious typesetting was still the only
troff setup at UCB as of 4.2BSD, i.e., no ditroff yet.  In the days of
4.3BSD CSRG used ditroff internally, but could not ship it because of
licensing nonsense, and by this point some early Xerox EP printer
(speaking Interpress, apparently) replaced Varian/Versatec as the
"default" device for casual prints, whereas APS-5 took the place of
CAT for serious typesetting jobs.

> I'm not saying interpreting C/A/T output was done at the mother ship,
> but it's not impossible either.  The big wins with [td]itroff were
> more than four fonts, and graphics.

Second sentence: I agree absolutely.  But while people did take output
of original troff and converted it to either raster or PostScript,
I am not quite sure if one could drive something like APS-5 in this
manner - I'll have to think about it.

M~

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-07  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-05 22:17 [TUHS] " Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-05 23:19 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2024-01-06  0:12   ` Will Senn
2024-01-06  1:26   ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-06  5:08     ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-01-06  6:12       ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-06 15:06       ` Will Senn
2024-01-06  1:06 ` Al Kossow
2024-01-06  1:45   ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-01-06 14:42     ` amp1ron
2024-01-06  3:02   ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-06  3:22     ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-06  4:06       ` Jonathan Gray
2024-01-06  4:06       ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-06 18:33         ` Clem Cole
2024-01-06 21:04           ` Rich Salz
2024-01-06 21:38             ` Clem Cole
2024-01-10 16:32             ` Michael Parson
2024-02-10 19:43               ` Al Kossow
2024-01-07  2:17           ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-07  2:25             ` Al Kossow
2024-01-07  2:54             ` Phil Budne
2024-01-07  3:21               ` Mychaela Falconia [this message]
2024-01-07  3:55             ` Clem Cole
2024-01-10 16:53             ` Michael Parson
2024-01-10 17:45               ` Clem Cole
2024-01-07 10:54         ` Brian Walden
2024-01-07 12:12           ` arnold
2024-01-08  0:20           ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-07 21:59             ` [TUHS] My own version of troff Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-08  3:24               ` [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / " G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-08  5:10                 ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-08  7:11                   ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-09  9:38                     ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-09 16:27                       ` Al Kossow
2024-01-09 17:18                         ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-01-09 18:05                           ` Phil Budne
2024-01-09 18:30                             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2024-01-09 20:29                           ` Al Kossow
2024-01-09 20:31                             ` Al Kossow
2024-01-09 22:07                           ` Clem Cole
     [not found]                   ` <CAGcdajdc5GfTOeP_Vw_AC0E6BdnrBLape1+GEd2JGDCg4n31eQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-01-17 14:08                     ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-17 15:32                       ` Brad Spencer
2024-01-17 15:48                         ` Clem Cole
2024-01-17 16:25                           ` Rich Salz
2024-01-18  7:00                     ` Mychaela Falconia
     [not found]                       ` <CAGcdaje=RHbLNZv2Cy=xtuEMaYU7RXMtnom7gYuAMMju2xrHgw@mail.gmail.com>
2024-01-18  8:22                         ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-18 13:27                       ` G. Branden Robinson
     [not found]                     ` <ZalHs6DAuvRwXTuS@fluorine>
2024-01-19 16:52                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-06 14:52       ` [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? Will Senn
2024-01-06 16:52         ` Al Kossow
2024-01-06 16:54           ` Al Kossow
2024-01-06 18:28         ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-01-07 13:42 Douglas McIlroy
2024-01-09  6:32 Brian Walden
2024-01-09  8:24 Brian Walden
2024-01-09  9:05 ` Mychaela Falconia
2024-01-10 18:25 Douglas McIlroy

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