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From: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] YP / NIS / NIS+ / LDAP
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:12:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3837fab8-05c2-4483-149e-07df4f69fcde@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPWNY8WqB0fO=a_sNq5NezO7xh3-c4iO3gyoFUZXk5e7=v179w@mail.gmail.com>

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On 11/5/2018 2:24 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
>> I'd like to hear more about the security issues.
>>
>> Did NIS(+) ever encrypt it's communications?  (I'm not counting things
>> like IPsec transport.)
>>
>> I'm fairly certain that it was possible to enumerate the directory or
>> otherwise scrape most (if not all) of it's contents.
> There was `ypcat passwd`, wasn't there?
>

It was possible, unless you used a network filter on the server, to just 
ypbind to the server, and then you could ypcat all the maps. Not to 
mention that without specifying a server, it was a broadcast. So any YP 
server on the subnet would answer.

NIS+ was encrypted over the network, and needed a public key mechanism 
to authenticate clients. One of which was the server itself. With it's 
hierarchical architecture, it had a lot of flexibility.

I really never understood why people didn't like NIS+. It took an extra 
step or two to do certain things, but once scripted it was a fairly 
secure way of handling authentication and directory services. I added 
new maps to it to do custom .cshrc/.profile scripts using subsections in 
/usr/local/profile, and a few other customizations. Add it's 
compatibility mode for NIS/YP, and you could use it to serve not only 
Sun clients.

Operationally, it really was just NIS/YP but with a lot of whiz-bang 
features. In a deployment of a few hundred mechanical and electrical 
engineers, with about 50 actual workstations and servers I never had a 
problem with it. Permissions and other features were actually quite useful.

However, I must say, I kept the NIS/YP way of using flat files to 
regenerate the NIS+ maps each time they were edited. So I guess I 
cheated a little.

art k.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 20:51 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-04 21:46 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-04 22:45 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-04 22:58 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-04 23:49   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-05  3:16 ` Robert Brockway
2018-11-05  6:08   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05  7:24     ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05  7:33       ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 16:12       ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2018-11-05 19:32         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 22:43           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  5:25             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 16:50               ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06 19:43                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:27       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:36       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:36         ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 23:12           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:43         ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  4:58           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 12:59             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  6:53           ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 13:21             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:44               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 14:00                 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:46               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 22:34         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:24           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  7:07             ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 17:30               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 19:58                 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 22:24             ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 11:37                 ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-07 17:30                   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 22:01                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-08  1:48                       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-07 23:00                     ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-07  1:03             ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-06 12:54           ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-05 20:10     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05  3:49 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05  6:12   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:58     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 22:53       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:28         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 15:44   ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 18:38     ` arnold
2018-11-05 19:04       ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 21:21         ` Noel Hunt
2018-11-07  8:58         ` arnold
2018-11-07 14:05           ` arnold
2018-11-05 20:48 ` A. P. Garcia
2018-11-05 23:07   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:46     ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:32       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 22:29         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:40           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07  1:38           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  3:03     ` Robert Brockway
2018-11-06  5:03       ` David Arnold
2018-11-06  5:34       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 23:59 Norman Wilson

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