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From: Robert Brockway <robert@timetraveller.org>
To: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] YP / NIS / NIS+ / LDAP
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:03:47 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1811061122360.13752@mira.opentrend.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a64b957-5912-b102-c73c-d0b71bd24188@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:

> I also loath the idea that Unix (Linux) doesn't have a stand alone central 
> directory server solution.  Or if LDAP + Kerveros is said solution, so be it. 
> -  That's sort of what I'm trying to figure out.

LDAP with or without Kerberos certainly counts as a standalone directory 
server solution for *nix.

> Translation:  What is the current Unix (Linux) method to provide central user 
> directory / authentication for about a dozen Unix (Linux / Solaris / *BSD / 
> AIX) systems /without/ a Windows Server in the mix.  I don't own a license 
> for any version of Windows Server that supports AD.  Nor do I feel compelled 
> to buy one.

I've seen plenty of businesses with Linux servers and OSX desktops.  These 
business often manage user auth on Linux with LDAP.  Various solutions 
were used to manage the OSX boxes but they were quite separate to Linux.

One caveat with LDAP.  When I last did this a few years ago many Linux 
systems were set up in such a manner that a failure of LDAP makes the 
systems largely unusable. AFAIK this is still a problem.

A sysadmin logging in had to wait out a series of timeouts while trying to 
open nsswitch.conf or the PAM config to disable LDAP so the underlying 
problems could be addressed.

One fix for this that I mentioned earlier is to manage the Linux systems 
using orchestration tools like Ansible.  Have them generate local passwd, 
shadow & group files from data stored in LDAP.  This prevent the timeout 
problems I mentioned earlier and also means that switching to a new 
authentication backend (eg, OpenLDAP to AD) is a lot easier since it is 
abstracted away.

Cheers,

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 20:51 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-04 21:46 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-04 22:45 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-04 22:58 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-04 23:49   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-05  3:16 ` Robert Brockway
2018-11-05  6:08   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05  7:24     ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05  7:33       ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 16:12       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-05 19:32         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 22:43           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  5:25             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 16:50               ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06 19:43                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:27       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:36       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:36         ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 23:12           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:43         ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  4:58           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 12:59             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  6:53           ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 13:21             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:44               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 14:00                 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:46               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 22:34         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:24           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  7:07             ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 17:30               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 19:58                 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 22:24             ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 11:37                 ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-07 17:30                   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 22:01                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-08  1:48                       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-07 23:00                     ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-07  1:03             ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-06 12:54           ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-05 20:10     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05  3:49 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05  6:12   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:58     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 22:53       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:28         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 15:44   ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 18:38     ` arnold
2018-11-05 19:04       ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 21:21         ` Noel Hunt
2018-11-07  8:58         ` arnold
2018-11-07 14:05           ` arnold
2018-11-05 20:48 ` A. P. Garcia
2018-11-05 23:07   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:46     ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:32       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 22:29         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:40           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07  1:38           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  3:03     ` Robert Brockway [this message]
2018-11-06  5:03       ` David Arnold
2018-11-06  5:34       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 23:59 Norman Wilson

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