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From: Pete Turnbull <pete@dunnington.plus.com>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] YP / NIS / NIS+ / LDAP
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 11:37:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec991a24-fe7c-232c-df00-162699ba615a@dunnington.plus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e9e6546-6575-e4d5-caf8-52c504f5a953@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>

On 07/11/2018 00:35, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote:
> On 11/06/2018 03:24 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
>> Isn't that authorization?
> 
> Not really.
> 
> Authentication is proving that you are who you claim to be.  -  Show 
> your drivers license to the bouncer.
> 
> Authorization is deciding if the authenticated entity is allowed to have 
> access or not.  -  Is your name on the list of people allowed into the 
> nightclub?
> 
> Access Control - The bouncer, allowing you in or physically barring you 
> from entering.

Not really.  You go past the bouncer as an immediate consequence of 
authorization.  The third 'A' is normally accounting: the bouncer notes 
the time you entered in the visitors book or logbook, and sometimes also 
notes the time you leave.  Just about every network access service does 
this, and "access control" is the whole AAA thing combined.

Have you ever seen a system that confirmed authentication and 
authorisation but then denied access (other than through a fault)? 
Denying access would be by a (possibly temporary) denial of authorisation.

-- 
Pete
Pete Turnbull

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 20:51 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-04 21:46 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-04 22:45 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-04 22:58 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-04 23:49   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-05  3:16 ` Robert Brockway
2018-11-05  6:08   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05  7:24     ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05  7:33       ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 16:12       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-05 19:32         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 22:43           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  5:25             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 16:50               ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06 19:43                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:27       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:36       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:36         ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 23:12           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 21:43         ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  4:58           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 12:59             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06  6:53           ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 13:21             ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:44               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 14:00                 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-06 13:46               ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-05 22:34         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:24           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  7:07             ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 17:30               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 19:58                 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2018-11-06 22:24             ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 11:37                 ` Pete Turnbull [this message]
2018-11-07 17:30                   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07 22:01                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-08  1:48                       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-07 23:00                     ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-07  1:03             ` Pete Turnbull
2018-11-06 12:54           ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2018-11-05 20:10     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05  3:49 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05  6:12   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-05 19:58     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 22:53       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:28         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-05 15:44   ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 18:38     ` arnold
2018-11-05 19:04       ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-05 21:21         ` Noel Hunt
2018-11-07  8:58         ` arnold
2018-11-07 14:05           ` arnold
2018-11-05 20:48 ` A. P. Garcia
2018-11-05 23:07   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06  1:46     ` Dan Cross
2018-11-06  5:32       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 22:29         ` Dan Cross
2018-11-07  0:40           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-07  1:38           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-11-06  3:03     ` Robert Brockway
2018-11-06  5:03       ` David Arnold
2018-11-06  5:34       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-06 23:59 Norman Wilson

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