From: John Labovitz <johnl@johnlabovitz.com>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] First ARPAnet transmission
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:34:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B2BFC4F-6FAC-4104-9BCC-2D3C5C0B0970@johnlabovitz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2N=HEks=2SK4rfHAU09KGAaCThNijeY6WVSH2OZYbh63Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Oct 29, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> I >>think<< it is more likely 06:30 UTC, as IIRC Daylight Saving Time finished mid-month so I think it would have been UTC+8:00 [not +7:00 which it would be now]. That said, Nixon [...shutter...] was in office and he put the US went on DST in the winter at some point due to the oil crisis (but I thought that was a year or so later). I remember it all happening at the time - but I can do not put precise dates on any of it.
According to tzdata...
% zdump -v America/Los_Angeles | grep 1969
America/Los_Angeles Sun Apr 27 09:59:59 1969 UTC = Sun Apr 27 01:59:59 1969 PST isdst=0
America/Los_Angeles Sun Apr 27 10:00:00 1969 UTC = Sun Apr 27 03:00:00 1969 PDT isdst=1
America/Los_Angeles Sun Oct 26 08:59:59 1969 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59 1969 PDT isdst=1
America/Los_Angeles Sun Oct 26 09:00:00 1969 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00 1969 PST isdst=0
...it appears that DST was *not* in effect on October 30, 1969.
A caveat: tzdata’s docs warn that dates before 1970 may not be accurate. But because I’m fascinated by the cultural history embedded within that database, I downloaded the latest tzdata files to check. The relevant rules are in the ‘northamerica’ file:
Rule CA 1948 only - Mar 14 2:01 1:00 D
Rule CA 1949 only - Jan 1 2:00 0 S
Rule CA 1950 1966 - Apr lastSun 1:00 1:00 D
Rule CA 1950 1961 - Sep lastSun 2:00 0 S
Rule CA 1962 1966 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S
Zone America/Los_Angeles -7:52:58 - LMT 1883 Nov 18 12:07:02
-8:00 US P%sT 1946
-8:00 CA P%sT 1967
-8:00 US P%sT
I wouldn’t say that’s definitive, but usually tzdata is a pretty good source.
Best,
—John
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-29 1:05 Dave Horsfall
2018-10-29 2:10 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-10-29 6:42 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-10-29 7:16 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-10-29 14:19 ` Clem Cole
2018-10-29 15:34 ` John Labovitz [this message]
2018-10-29 21:13 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-10-30 0:11 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-10-30 12:50 ` arnold
2018-10-30 22:12 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-10-30 22:05 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-10-30 1:09 ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-30 3:55 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-10-30 6:07 ` Arno Griffioen
2018-10-31 21:10 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-10-30 0:08 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-10-29 23:28 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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2017-10-28 22:13 Dave Horsfall
2017-10-28 22:40 ` William Cheswick
2017-10-29 2:44 ` Dave Horsfall
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