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From: "John P. Linderman" <jpl.jpl@gmail.com>
To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Command line options and complexity
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:52:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC0cEp-dL2iPikiGvaQ_s9_6AS=mFO4RvbT423fNJ3gQiLdthQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200314043505.GD44529@eureka.lemis.com>

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Here's a command I wrote long ago using a different way to deal with
options:

  *isee*
Usage: isee format file ...
    Display specified inode information for files passed as arguments.
    Items of the form ``%X'' in format will be replaced for these X:
dev inode ino mode nlink uid gid rdev size atime
mtime ctime now filename
    Parenthesized printf-style format specifications can follow a %
    to override the default format for the various items.
    %filename is the name of the current file argument.
    %now is the time (in seconds) when the command started running.
    The other items are from the stat structure.

    Example: isee "%(40s)filename: %mtime %mode" /dev/null
    Show file modification time and mode of /dev/null

inode is just a synonym for ino.

Instead of a kazillion options, the %-stat-field items identify *what* you
want to see and the printf-style formats identify *how* you want them
shown. Someone in the Murray Hill library added strftime formats for date
fields, a fine addition, in my view. Adding readable user and group names
rather than numerical ids would be worth considering. *Maybe* having a
"rwx"-style form for mode. Sorting can be done by piping the output through
sort. Don't get hung up on shortcomings of the command, just consider how a
few familiar concepts and pipes can be combined to provide a large number
of options.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:35 AM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 21:45:21 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >
> >>> -h is a gnuism, isn't it?
> >>
> >> It might have originated there, but then I would expect it to be spelt
> >> '--produce-human-readable-output'.  I haven't been able to establish
> from the
> >> FreeBSD sources or commit logs when it was introduced.  It would
> clearly have
> >> been a reimplementation.
> >
> > It's in "df" as well, praise Cthulu:
> >
> >      aneurin# df -h
> >      Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> >      /dev/ad0s1a    496M    302M    154M    66%    /
> >      /dev/ad0s1d    2.9G    1.4G    1.2G    54%    /usr
> >      /dev/ad0s1e    989M    581M    329M    64%    /var
> ...
>
> It also has the , option:
>
>   === grog@eureka (/dev/pts/72) ~ 8 -> df -,
>   Filesystem  1048576-blocks      Used     Avail Capacity  Mounted on
>   /dev/ada0p4         39,662    21,918    14,571    60%    /
>   /dev/ada0p2         39,662    13,447    23,042    37%    /destdir
>   /dev/ada0p5      3,705,520 1,831,345 1,577,733    54%    /home
>   /dev/ada1p1      7,629,565 6,358,607 1,194,661    84%    /Photos
>
> I find it much easier to see the relative size like that.
>
> Greg
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-14 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-13 10:45 Dave Horsfall
2020-03-14  4:35 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-14 19:52   ` John P. Linderman [this message]
2020-03-14 20:25     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-03-10 18:42 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-10 19:38 ` Dan Cross
2020-03-10 16:15 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-10 17:38 ` Dan Cross
2020-03-10 17:44   ` Bakul Shah
2020-03-10 18:09     ` Dan Cross
2020-03-05  4:57 Doug McIlroy
2020-03-05 22:17 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2020-03-04 14:06 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2020-03-04 16:17 ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-04 17:25   ` Bakul Shah
2020-03-05  0:55   ` Rob Pike
2020-03-05  2:05   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-03-05  4:17     ` Ken Thompson via TUHS
2020-03-05 14:53       ` Dan Cross
2020-03-05 21:50       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05 21:56         ` Warner Losh
2020-03-08  5:26           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-08  5:32             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-03-08  9:30               ` Tyler Adams
     [not found]                 ` <CAC0cEp8eFRkkLTw88WVaKZoKy+qsrhuC8LkzmmsbqtdZgMf8eQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAEuQd1D7+dfap98AwPo2W41+06prrcVaAWk3Ve-ve0uQ0xBu3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2020-03-09 21:06                     ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-09 21:22                       ` Kurt H Maier
2020-03-11 17:41                         ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-11 21:29                           ` Warner Losh
2020-03-12  0:13                             ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-12  0:34                               ` Chet Ramey
2020-03-12 12:57                             ` John P. Linderman
2020-03-12 19:24                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-03-08  9:51             ` Michael Kjörling
2020-03-03 18:15 Jon Steinhart
2020-03-03 18:44 ` Adam Thornton
2020-03-04  4:11   ` Tyler Adams
2020-03-04  6:03     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-04  6:48       ` arnold
2020-03-04 21:17         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05  0:49         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2020-03-05 20:54           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-05 22:01             ` William Cheswick
2020-03-04 21:50   ` Random832
2020-03-04 23:19     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-03-05  6:12     ` Alan D. Salewski
2020-03-04 22:03   ` Random832
2020-03-04 23:25     ` Terry Jones
2020-03-10 23:03 ` Dan Stromberg
2020-03-11  3:18   ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-11  4:02     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-11 22:56     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-11 23:14       ` Dan Cross
2020-03-12  0:42         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  0:53       ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-12  3:09         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  3:34           ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-13  1:02             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  5:38         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-12  6:48         ` Peter Jeremy
2020-03-12  7:37           ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-12  7:42             ` Warner Losh
2020-03-12 23:57           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-12  5:22       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-12  5:35         ` Steve Nickolas
2020-03-13  0:36         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-03-13 11:26           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-03-14  2:13           ` Greg A. Woods
2020-03-14  4:31             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey

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