From: Wesley Parish <wobblygong@gmail.com>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Abstractions
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 13:25:51 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACNPpeYEBAtQL_jJk1jNmZ1nX=QGtOUaHJ6nZ-i56xRT_9Qsbg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2102220924220.70858@aneurin.horsfall.org>
I've just checked Slackware 14.* and it's still got a few binaries in
/bin, unlike the RedHat* group which has indeed sent them all to
/usr/bin. I don't know about the Debian* group, or if the Mandrake*
group have gone with the RedHat* or not. Let alone all the other
distros.
Wesley Parish
On 2/22/21, Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2021, M Douglas McIlroy wrote:
>
>>> - separation of code and data using read-only and read/write file
>>> systems
>>
>> I'll bite. How do you install code in a read-only file system? And where
>> does a.out go?
>
> I once worked for a place who reckoned that /bin and /lib etc ought to be
> in an EEPROM; I reckon that he was right (Penguin/OS dumps everything
> under /usr/bin, for example).
>
>> My guess is that /bin is in a file system of its own. Executables from
>> /letc and /lib are probably there too. On the other hand, I guess users'
>> personal code is still read/write.
>
> That's how we ran our RK-05 11/40s since Ed 5... Good fun writing a DJ-11
> driver from the DH-11 source; even more fun when I wrote a UT-200 driver
> from the manual alone (I'm sure that "ei.c" is Out There Somewhere),
> junking IanJ's driver.
>
> The war stories that I could tell...
>
>> I agree that such an arrangement is prudent. I don't see a way, though,
>> to update bin without disrupting most running programs.
>
> Change is inevitable; the trick is to minimise the disruption.
>
> -- Dave, who carried RK-05s all over the UNSW campus
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-23 0:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-20 23:09 M Douglas McIlroy
2021-02-21 8:15 ` Otto Moerbeek
2021-02-21 11:08 ` Rich Morin
2021-02-21 22:40 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-21 23:01 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-23 3:31 ` Andrew Warkentin
2021-02-23 17:29 ` [TUHS] /usr separation (was: Abstractions) Greg A. Woods
2021-02-23 18:28 ` [TUHS] /usr separation Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-02-23 18:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-23 20:29 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-02-24 14:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-24 17:50 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-02-24 18:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-24 18:48 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-02-25 3:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-24 20:25 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-24 22:08 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-02-24 3:12 ` [TUHS] /usr separation (was: Abstractions) Andrew Warkentin
2021-02-22 0:13 ` [TUHS] Abstractions Warren Toomey
2021-02-27 2:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-23 0:25 ` Wesley Parish [this message]
2021-02-23 0:38 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-23 2:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-23 3:19 ` Warner Losh
2021-02-23 1:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-21 22:54 ` Clem Cole
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-02-24 4:18 Rudi Blom
2021-02-23 19:37 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-02-23 21:02 ` Charles H. Sauer
2021-02-23 21:15 ` Henry Bent
2021-02-24 2:47 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24 3:20 ` Warner Losh
2021-02-24 20:05 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24 1:51 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24 2:23 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-02-21 10:47 Paul Ruizendaal
2021-02-15 19:56 Jon Steinhart
2021-02-15 21:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-16 7:13 ` arnold
2021-02-16 8:15 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2021-02-16 10:04 ` Wesley Parish
2021-02-16 19:59 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-02-17 4:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-17 6:50 ` Chris Hanson
2021-02-16 12:26 ` Rich Morin
2021-02-16 22:46 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-02-17 12:09 ` David Arnold
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