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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX on (not quite bare) System/370
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 12:33:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7yRJB0eXg=VZB-jgSZCjTyhrHhpUiN6dtWko8eM+eOcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221222172654.965D618C079@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:27 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>     > From: Bakul Shah
>
>     > There is a further para:
>
>     >  Reducing external memory fragmentation to zero by utilizing the VAX-
>     >  11/780 memory mapping hardware for scatter loading is high on the list
>     >  of things to do in the second implementation pass.
>
> I'm curious as to exactly what is meant by "external memory"? They must mean
> memory on the Synchronous Backplane Interconnect:
>
>   http://gunkies.org/wiki/Synchronous_Backplane_Interconnect
>
> I.e. what most of us would call 'main memory'.
> [snip]

I think you left off a critical word: "fragmentation."  I interpreted this to be
about external memory fragmentation a la memory allocators. As in,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragmentation_(computing)#External_fragmentation

Presumably, this would be less of an issue if they were actually making use
of the virtual memory hardware to compose contiguous virtual address spaces
from discontiguous physical memory pages.

        - Dan C.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-22 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-22 17:26 Noel Chiappa
2022-12-22 17:33 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2022-12-22 20:25 ` Warner Losh
2022-12-22 23:06   ` Warner Losh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-12-20 22:25 Noel Chiappa
2022-12-20 23:18 ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-19 17:38 [TUHS] " Phil Budne
2022-12-19 18:53 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-19 21:01   ` Clem Cole
2022-12-19 21:19     ` Rob Pike
2022-12-19 22:15       ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-20  0:02         ` Brad Spencer
2022-12-20  1:04           ` Adam Thornton
2022-12-20  2:35             ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-20 14:25           ` Andrew Hume
2022-12-19 23:02       ` Clem Cole
2022-12-20  1:20         ` Larry Stewart
2022-12-20  1:33           ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-20  1:57             ` George Michaelson
2022-12-20  2:06               ` Dan Cross
2022-12-20 15:04                 ` Chet Ramey
2022-12-20  2:12               ` Adam Thornton
2022-12-20 15:29                 ` Andy Kosela
2022-12-20 15:35                   ` Adam Thornton
2022-12-21  2:43                     ` Luther Johnson
2022-12-20 23:18                 ` David Arnold
2022-12-20  2:52       ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-20  3:09         ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-20  3:27           ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-20  3:48           ` Warner Losh
2022-12-20  4:21           ` Jonathan Gray
2022-12-19 21:36 ` Marc Donner
2022-12-19 22:52   ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2022-12-20  3:11 ` Warner Losh
2022-12-20  8:56 ` arnold
2022-12-20  9:31   ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-20  9:39     ` arnold
2022-12-20  9:55       ` Jonathan Gray
2022-12-20 14:27     ` Clem Cole
2022-12-23  1:53       ` Rob Gingell
2022-12-22 19:00 ` Andrew Hume

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