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From: "A. P. Garcia" <a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com>
To: Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Unix game origins - stories similar to Crowther's Adventure
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 15:41:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFCBnZs0qd9HwyNwMkFGcAhesuRyWzoeJcxEGkabg+f8bG48cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH6PiU1aLmUq585mBMmMmZfpuwSAE3sx-UQoj=dn5-pb-w5DA@mail.gmail.com>

> Equally unfortunately, 9P, the very foundation of Plan 9, seems to
have met the same fate.

Not at all. :-) Windows Subsystem for Linux uses 9P to share files
between the linux and windows environments on the same box:

$ ps -ef
UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
root         1     0  0 Jan30 ?        00:00:00 /init
root         4     1  0 Jan30 ?        00:00:02 plan9 --control-socket
5 --log-level 4 --server-fd 6 --pipe-fd 8 --log-truncate

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:23 PM Douglas McIlroy
<douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> > In the annals of UNIX gaming, have there ever been notable games that have operated as multiple processes, perhaps using formal IPC or even just pipes or shared files for communication between separate processes
>
> I don't know any Unix examples, but DTSS (Dartmouth Time Sharing
> System) "communication files" were used for the purpose. For a fuller
> story see https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/DTSS/commfiles.pdf
>
> > This is probably a bit more Plan 9-ish than UNIX-ish
>
> So it was with communication files, which allowed IO system calls to
> be handled in userland. Unfortunately, communication files were
> complicated and turned out to be an evolutionary dead end. They had
> had no ancestral connection to successors like pipes and Plan 9.
> Equally unfortunately, 9P, the very foundation of Plan 9, seems to
> have met the same fate.
>
> Doug

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-01 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 20:21 Douglas McIlroy
2023-02-01 20:41 ` A. P. Garcia [this message]
2023-02-01 20:47   ` ron minnich
2023-02-01 23:31     ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-02-02  7:30       ` [TUHS] 9P Lives. (Was: Unix game origins - stories similar to Crowther's Adventure) Ralph Corderoy
2023-02-01 23:24 ` [TUHS] Re: Unix game origins - stories similar to Crowther's Adventure Dan Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-02-02  0:43 Noel Chiappa
2023-02-01  2:30 [TUHS] " Will Senn
2023-02-01  2:58 ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2023-02-01  4:50   ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-02-01  5:36     ` Rob Pike
2023-02-01 20:23       ` Dave Horsfall
2023-02-02 15:35         ` Marc Donner
2023-02-03  2:15           ` Adam Thornton
2023-02-01  6:27     ` Jonathan Gray
2023-02-01  7:09       ` Jonathan Gray
2023-02-01 14:41 ` Rich Salz
2023-02-01 15:22   ` Will Senn
2023-02-01 17:34     ` Rich Salz
2023-02-01 17:52 ` Henry Bent
2023-02-01 18:33   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-02-01 19:09     ` Rich Salz
2023-02-01 19:16       ` Dan Cross

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