* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo [not found] <20170330074552.GA32142@minnie.tuhs.org> @ 2017-03-31 6:03 ` Dave Horsfall 2017-04-05 6:25 ` Peter Jeremy 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2017-03-31 6:03 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Warren Toomey via Uucp wrote: > On 03/29/2017 11:09 PM, Dave Horsfall via Uucp wrote: > > Let the cancel/rmgroup/flame wars begin :-) > > :-P And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet that not many people remember that little episode :-) > > (Been too busy to set up "utzoo" yet, so if anyone is desperate for it > > then they can have it instead; my long-term goal is to run SimH on a > > RasbPi but first I have to afford one...) > > What's your address? I've got an unused Raspberry Pi that I'll send you > (or anyone else). ;-) First come, first serve. To be sent privately... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-03-31 6:03 ` [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo Dave Horsfall @ 2017-04-05 6:25 ` Peter Jeremy 2017-04-05 22:29 ` Noel Hunt 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Jeremy @ 2017-04-05 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw) On 2017-Mar-31 17:03:24 +1100, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Warren Toomey via Uucp wrote: > >> On 03/29/2017 11:09 PM, Dave Horsfall via Uucp wrote: >> > Let the cancel/rmgroup/flame wars begin :-) >> >> :-P > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet that >not many people remember that little episode :-) Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? -- Peter Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 949 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20170405/567a0dcb/attachment.sig> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 6:25 ` Peter Jeremy @ 2017-04-05 22:29 ` Noel Hunt 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Noel Hunt @ 2017-04-05 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Ah, 'Iron Bar'. We shared an office at Sydney University, Department of Computer Science from 1987-1990. I don't recall if John was still engulfed in the flame wars during that period as I wasn't party to any of it. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Peter Jeremy <peter at rulingia.com> wrote: > On 2017-Mar-31 17:03:24 +1100, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: > >On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Warren Toomey via Uucp wrote: > > > >> On 03/29/2017 11:09 PM, Dave Horsfall via Uucp wrote: > >> > Let the cancel/rmgroup/flame wars begin :-) > >> > >> :-P > > > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet that > >not many people remember that little episode :-) > > Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? > > -- > Peter Jeremy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20170406/bb87bb91/attachment.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 6:25 ` Peter Jeremy 2017-04-05 22:29 ` Noel Hunt @ 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall 2017-04-05 23:27 ` Noel Hunt ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2017-04-05 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw) On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet > >that not many people remember that little episode :-) > > Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? Oh gawd... It was a sad day when we lost him; I really missed him. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall @ 2017-04-05 23:27 ` Noel Hunt 2017-04-05 23:44 ` Peter Jeremy 2017-04-06 5:34 ` arnold 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Noel Hunt @ 2017-04-05 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw) John was certainly...different. Here is a file I found in his home directory after he was no longer with us: A Short History of John Mackin or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Machine I was born in the dawn of computing, three days after the first FORTRAN compiler became operational. My first words were "BALR R4". My introduction to modern computing was on a DECsystem-10 (which shall remain nameless). Continuing down the track with Digital hardware, I found out about PDP-11s and acquired a reputation as the Man who could Answer Hard Questions. I became completely nocturnal in order to get better system response and avoid landlords. I ate lots of pizzas, and knew the octal encoding for any -10 or -11 instruction. But there was something missing. In 1977 I saw Level 6 UNIX (a trademark, of course, of AT&T Bell Laboratories). It was queer, and it was very buggy, and it was running on a very unstable 11/40. But it had that ``je ne sais quoi''. From that time on, it's been a never-ending progression: through V7, system III, PWB, AUSAM and Berkeley to System V, and now Release 2.0. Sometimes advocating and sometimes resisting creeping featurism, I can still Answer Hard Questions (and amazingly trivial ones too). The secret is to read the manuals -- but I long ago despaired of getting others to do that. My interests, apart from UNIX (you mean there IS something apart from UNIX?), are -- well -- I'm sure I USED to have some ... ... On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet > > >that not many people remember that little episode :-) > > > > Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? > > Oh gawd... It was a sad day when we lost him; I really missed him. > > -- > Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will > suffer." > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20170406/4476ffb1/attachment.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall 2017-04-05 23:27 ` Noel Hunt @ 2017-04-05 23:44 ` Peter Jeremy 2017-04-06 0:25 ` Dave Horsfall 2017-04-06 5:34 ` arnold 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Jeremy @ 2017-04-05 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw) On 2017-Apr-06 08:52:29 +1000, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: >On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet >> >that not many people remember that little episode :-) >> >> Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? That should be "role", of course. >Oh gawd... It was a sad day when we lost him; I really missed him. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.food.cooking/0io1y7c-bTI was the first hit I found to his obituary. Does anyone know what happened to Rev Dr Phil Herring? -- Peter Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 949 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20170406/c8fb1578/attachment.sig> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 23:44 ` Peter Jeremy @ 2017-04-06 0:25 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2017-04-06 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.food.cooking/0io1y7c-bTI was > the first hit I found to his obituary. Funny how much you find out about someone after they've gone; I didn't know that he was a US citizen, and was into Amateur radio (anyone know his callsign?) for example. > Does anyone know what happened to Rev Dr Phil Herring? Now there was a character; last I heard (some years back) the good RevDoc had left Wollongong Uni and was wearing a suit. It's possible that he's the one mentioned at LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-herring-27553894 as it mentions CompSci at Wollongong Uni... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-05 22:52 ` Dave Horsfall 2017-04-05 23:27 ` Noel Hunt 2017-04-05 23:44 ` Peter Jeremy @ 2017-04-06 5:34 ` arnold 2017-04-06 5:42 ` arnold 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: arnold @ 2017-04-06 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw) > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet > > >that not many people remember that little episode :-) Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: > > Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? > > Oh gawd... It was a sad day when we lost him; I really missed him. What's the story here, for us non-Aussies? I have no clue as to what either aus.bizarre was or who "Iron Bar" was. Thanks, Arnold ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-06 5:34 ` arnold @ 2017-04-06 5:42 ` arnold 2017-04-06 6:11 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: arnold @ 2017-04-06 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw) arnold at skeeve.com wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > >And I still bear the scars from the aus.bizarre war... And I'll bet > > > >that not many people remember that little episode :-) > > Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote: > > > Who is going to take the roll of "Iron Bar"? > > > > Oh gawd... It was a sad day when we lost him; I really missed him. > > What's the story here, for us non-Aussies? I have no clue as to what > either aus.bizarre was or who "Iron Bar" was. > > Thanks, > > Arnold OK, so now I know that Iron Bar was John Mackin, a name that rings a bell from the distant past. What was the aus.bizarre story? THanks, Arnold ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] [Uucp] utzoo 2017-04-06 5:42 ` arnold @ 2017-04-06 6:11 ` Dave Horsfall 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Horsfall @ 2017-04-06 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw) On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, arnold at skeeve.com wrote: > OK, so now I know that Iron Bar was John Mackin, a name that rings a > bell from the distant past. What was the aus.bizarre story? Ah; as I said, I still bear the scars... Basically, I tried to create aus.bizarre (modelled after alt.bizarre) but some did not like it, and promptly removed it. To cut a long story short, it involved a newgroup/rmgroup war, which sadly I lost :-( It also just about brought ACSnet to its knees, because I automated my side of things (I don't know what John did, but it was likely automated too). I guess you had to be there... After that, though, Iron Bar and I became friends. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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