[TUHS] who was that unmasked man

[TUHS] who was that unmasked man

[ron minnich]

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CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Clem Cole]

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CCA - a.k.a. zimmerman emacs.
ᐧ

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:43 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[William H. Mitchell]

A story that Steve Zimmerman once told--and I can’t remember if in-person at a Usenix, on a mailing list, or on Usenet--was that on some Chinese restaurant menu he found this item: "Sliced Children with Tomato Sauce".  (Note: "children", not "chicken"!)  For fun, Zimmerman tried to order it, asking to be sure it was in fact sliced children, not sliced chicken.  The waiter carefully explained it was a typo, became very apologetic for disappointing him, etc. :)

Every once in a while I look for that post but I’ve never found it.  I wonder if anybody else from the recalls it from the 80s.

Google says, 'No results found for "sliced children with tomato sauce".'

FWIW, Here’s a search that turns up a few things related to CCA Emacs: https://groups.google.com/g/net.emacs/search?q=steve%20zimmerman%20cca%20emacs

My recollection is that Zimmerman passed away while relatively young, but hopefully I’m wrong.  I didn’t find him on LinkedIn just now.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> 
> CCA - a.k.a. zimmerman emacs.
> ᐧ
> 
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:43 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> <unnamed.png>
> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ... 
> 
> I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a mistake.
> 
> 

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Dan Halbert]

Here you go. I search in groups.google.com, which indexes old Usenet posts:

https://groups.google.com/g/net.jokes/c/GdEQWm_Ztj0/m/SoRDzqrLg64J

Dan H.

On 3/8/24 14:23, William H. Mitchell wrote:
> A story that Steve Zimmerman once told--and I can’t remember if in-person at a Usenix, on a mailing list, or on Usenet--was that on some Chinese restaurant menu he found this item: "Sliced Children with Tomato Sauce".  (Note: "children", not "chicken"!)  For fun, Zimmerman tried to order it, asking to be sure it was in fact sliced children, not sliced chicken.  The waiter carefully explained it was a typo, became very apologetic for disappointing him, etc. :)
>
> Every once in a while I look for that post but I’ve never found it.  I wonder if anybody else from the recalls it from the 80s.
>
> Google says, 'No results found for "sliced children with tomato sauce".'
>
> FWIW, Here’s a search that turns up a few things related to CCA Emacs: https://groups.google.com/g/net.emacs/search?q=steve%20zimmerman%20cca%20emacs
>
> My recollection is that Zimmerman passed away while relatively young, but hopefully I’m wrong.  I didn’t find him on LinkedIn just now.
>
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>>
>> CCA - a.k.a. zimmerman emacs.
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:43 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <unnamed.png>
>> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
>>
>> I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a mistake.
>>
>>

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Dan Halbert]

Here is the whole post:

z...@cca.uucp
Jun 3, 1983, 9:23:42 AM
to
Nothing will ever top the entry I saw on the menu of the main restaurant
in Darjeeling. The restaurant was quite ordinary, and so was most of
the menu. But there was one entry in the middle of a bunch of others
which caught my eye:

Rice with sliced children, tomato sauce.

I called the waiter over and tried to order it, and he explained that it
was a misprint; it was supposed to read "chicken" instead of "children".
I acted terribly disappointed, and the waiter became very apologetic.

This was the same restaurant in Darjeeling that was frequently out of
tea.

On the road up to Darjeeling, there were all sorts of interesting
billboards. On the approach to a narrow bridge, there was one
proclaiming "Watch your Vechicles". A little farther on, there was one
that said "Drink more coffee, it's good for you!"

On 3/8/24 14:55, Dan Halbert wrote:
> Here you go. I search in groups.google.com, which indexes old Usenet 
> posts:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/net.jokes/c/GdEQWm_Ztj0/m/SoRDzqrLg64J
>
> Dan H.
>
> On 3/8/24 14:23, William H. Mitchell wrote:
>> A story that Steve Zimmerman once told--and I can’t remember if 
>> in-person at a Usenix, on a mailing list, or on Usenet--was that on 
>> some Chinese restaurant menu he found this item: "Sliced Children 
>> with Tomato Sauce". (Note: "children", not "chicken"!)  For fun, 
>> Zimmerman tried to order it, asking to be sure it was in fact sliced 
>> children, not sliced chicken.  The waiter carefully explained it was 
>> a typo, became very apologetic for disappointing him, etc. :)
>>
>> Every once in a while I look for that post but I’ve never found it.  
>> I wonder if anybody else from the recalls it from the 80s.
>>
>> Google says, 'No results found for "sliced children with tomato sauce".'
>>
>> FWIW, Here’s a search that turns up a few things related to CCA 
>> Emacs: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/net.emacs/search?q=steve%20zimmerman%20cca%20emacs
>>
>> My recollection is that Zimmerman passed away while relatively young, 
>> but hopefully I’m wrong.  I didn’t find him on LinkedIn just now.
>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> CCA - a.k.a. zimmerman emacs.
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:43 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <unnamed.png>
>>> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
>>>
>>> I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a 
>>> mistake.
>>>
>>>
>

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Luther Johnson]

That reminds me of a restaurant, who posted, one day, that the soup of
the day was "Beef Barely".

On 03/08/2024 12:57 PM, Dan Halbert wrote:
> Here is the whole post:
>
> z...@cca.uucp
> Jun 3, 1983, 9:23:42 AM
> to
> Nothing will ever top the entry I saw on the menu of the main restaurant
> in Darjeeling. The restaurant was quite ordinary, and so was most of
> the menu. But there was one entry in the middle of a bunch of others
> which caught my eye:
>
> Rice with sliced children, tomato sauce.
>
> I called the waiter over and tried to order it, and he explained that it
> was a misprint; it was supposed to read "chicken" instead of "children".
> I acted terribly disappointed, and the waiter became very apologetic.
>
> This was the same restaurant in Darjeeling that was frequently out of
> tea.
>
> On the road up to Darjeeling, there were all sorts of interesting
> billboards. On the approach to a narrow bridge, there was one
> proclaiming "Watch your Vechicles". A little farther on, there was one
> that said "Drink more coffee, it's good for you!"
>
> On 3/8/24 14:55, Dan Halbert wrote:
>> Here you go. I search in groups.google.com, which indexes old Usenet
>> posts:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/net.jokes/c/GdEQWm_Ztj0/m/SoRDzqrLg64J
>>
>> Dan H.
>>
>> On 3/8/24 14:23, William H. Mitchell wrote:
>>> A story that Steve Zimmerman once told--and I can’t remember if
>>> in-person at a Usenix, on a mailing list, or on Usenet--was that on
>>> some Chinese restaurant menu he found this item: "Sliced Children
>>> with Tomato Sauce". (Note: "children", not "chicken"!)  For fun,
>>> Zimmerman tried to order it, asking to be sure it was in fact sliced
>>> children, not sliced chicken.  The waiter carefully explained it was
>>> a typo, became very apologetic for disappointing him, etc. :)
>>>
>>> Every once in a while I look for that post but I’ve never found it.
>>> I wonder if anybody else from the recalls it from the 80s.
>>>
>>> Google says, 'No results found for "sliced children with tomato
>>> sauce".'
>>>
>>> FWIW, Here’s a search that turns up a few things related to CCA
>>> Emacs:
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/net.emacs/search?q=steve%20zimmerman%20cca%20emacs
>>>
>>> My recollection is that Zimmerman passed away while relatively
>>> young, but hopefully I’m wrong.  I didn’t find him on LinkedIn just
>>> now.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CCA - a.k.a. zimmerman emacs.
>>>> ᐧ
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:43 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> <unnamed.png>
>>>> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
>>>>
>>>> I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a
>>>> mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Henry Bent]

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On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 11:43, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

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> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
>
> I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a mistake.
>

I assume "Unix 4.2" is meant to be 4.2BSD?

Where is this taken from?  Byte?

-Henry

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[John Floren via TUHS]

Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 11:43, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  unnamed.png
>  
>  CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ... 
>
>  I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a mistake.
>
> I assume "Unix 4.2" is meant to be 4.2BSD?
>
> Where is this taken from?  Byte?
>
> -Henry 

I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123

The confused gentleman sorta looks like if Wolfman Jack got a haircut
and went into software dev. I assume Ron knows who he is and is just
testing us.

john

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Dan Cross]

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM John Floren via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
> [snip]
> The confused gentleman sorta looks like if Wolfman Jack got a haircut
> and went into software dev. I assume Ron knows who he is and is just
> testing us.

John, I'm shocked that you would be so cavalier in your description of
a young Ron Minnich. Shocked, I say.

        - Dan C.

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[ron minnich]

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no, I really don't recall who it is , but ... I feel like I should know.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:59 AM John Floren via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

>
> Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 11:43, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  unnamed.png
> >
> >  CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
> >
> >  I forgot if I'm not allowed to load images, sorry if I just made a
> mistake.
> >
> > I assume "Unix 4.2" is meant to be 4.2BSD?
> >
> > Where is this taken from?  Byte?
> >
> > -Henry
>
> I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
> it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
> https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123
>
> The confused gentleman sorta looks like if Wolfman Jack got a haircut
> and went into software dev. I assume Ron knows who he is and is just
> testing us.
>
> john
>

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Lars Brinkhoff]

John Floren wrote:
> Henry Bent wrote:
>> ron minnich wrote:
>> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ... 
>> Where is this taken from?  Byte?
> I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
> it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
> https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123

It's from here:
https://archive.org/details/Unix_Review_1985_Dec.pdf/page/n21/mode/2up

I found a copy of CCA Emacs, but there's a copyright owner and they
didn't agree to put it online.

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[ron minnich]

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but I'm convinced the person in the picture was .. someone ... I used to at
least know of ....

but who?

I don't see the company selling CCA Emacs, advertising in byte, hiring male
models.

("but why male models?")


On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:47 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> John Floren wrote:
> > Henry Bent wrote:
> >> ron minnich wrote:
> >> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
> >> Where is this taken from?  Byte?
> > I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
> > it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
> > https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123
>
> It's from here:
> https://archive.org/details/Unix_Review_1985_Dec.pdf/page/n21/mode/2up
>
> I found a copy of CCA Emacs, but there's a copyright owner and they
> didn't agree to put it online.
>

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Warner Losh]

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On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:41 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> John Floren wrote:
> > Henry Bent wrote:
> >> ron minnich wrote:
> >> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
> >> Where is this taken from?  Byte?
> > I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
> > it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
> > https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123
>
> It's from here:
> https://archive.org/details/Unix_Review_1985_Dec.pdf/page/n21/mode/2up
>
> I found a copy of CCA Emacs, but there's a copyright owner and they
> didn't agree to put it online.
>

Who is the current owner?

Warner

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[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
>  I found a copy of CCA Emacs, but there's a copyright owner and they
>  didn't agree to put it online.
>
> Who is the current owner?

As far as I understand, Rocket Software.

[TUHS] Re: who was that unmasked man

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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Emacs is Not UNIX :-P

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 10:07 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:41 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>
>> John Floren wrote:
>> > Henry Bent wrote:
>> >> ron minnich wrote:
>> >> CCA EMACS? That's a name I have not heard in a long time ...
>> >> Where is this taken from?  Byte?
>> > I'm the one who sent Ron the picture, unfortunately I don't know where
>> > it came from, I just saw it on Lars Brinkhoff's Mastodon page:
>> > https://mastodon.sdf.org/@larsbrinkhoff/111752938080610123
>>
>> It's from here:
>> https://archive.org/details/Unix_Review_1985_Dec.pdf/page/n21/mode/2up
>>
>> I found a copy of CCA Emacs, but there's a copyright owner and they
>> didn't agree to put it online.
>>
>
> Who is the current owner?
>
> Warner
>

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