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From: Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clever code (was Re: Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives?
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:44:20 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2212112140260.28143@sd-119843.dedibox.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8F5B431B-3789-42C7-8E34-0B6A417B41CF@iitbombay.org>

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2022, Bakul Shah wrote:

> Agree that clear code is preferable to complicated code. But in practice
> people sacrifice clarity for performance improvement all the time. Look
> at the kernel code of any modern os. Everybody pays lip service to this
> but most anything other than toy programs ends up getting needlessly
> complicated over time. As an example, building "Unix as a service" as
> user processes on top of a small microkernel could provide the same
> functionality using much clearer and much less code but it would be
> slower so we don't do it. Plan9 sort of went in that direction and it
> is much simpler (but that could also be because it is not hacked on so
> much).
>
> I do prefer clever/smart design to locally clever/smart code. For example,
> using Schönhage-Strassen algorithm for multiplying very large numbers.
> Or transforming a problem to use a much more efficient data structure
> or making equivalent transforms which may be more efficient to compute.
> Such code may not be immediately clear but with proper documentation
> it is not difficult + you can solve much larger problems. But agreed
> these come up much less often.

My attitude is: if I'm doing an ugly on nonobvious hack, I'll drop a 
comment saying what it does.

Most recently I wrote code that set a "magic flag" - and the comment 
explained why the flag was set (so that it would be immediately altered, 
forcing a redraw).

-uso.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-12  2:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-10 19:38 [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-11  0:22 ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2022-12-11  2:37   ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-11 13:59   ` Michael Kjörling
2022-12-11 14:28     ` Steve Nickolas
2022-12-11 15:04       ` Dan Cross
2022-12-13  1:54         ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-11 17:18     ` Adam Thornton
2022-12-11 18:54       ` Michael Kjörling
2022-12-11 19:55         ` Dave Horsfall
2022-12-11 20:03           ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-11 23:22             ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-12  2:15             ` [TUHS] Clever code (was " Bakul Shah
2022-12-12  2:44               ` Steve Nickolas [this message]
2022-12-12  3:09               ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-12  3:34                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-12  5:00                   ` Kevin Bowling
2022-12-12  5:26                   ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-12 15:02                     ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-12 15:29                     ` Clem Cole
2022-12-12 15:39                       ` Dan Cross
2022-12-12 16:04                       ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-12 16:26                         ` Clem Cole
2022-12-12 22:20                         ` Liam Proven
2022-12-12 23:10                           ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-12 23:24                             ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-13  2:00                       ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-13 13:37                         ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-13 23:00                           ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-14  1:05                             ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-14  1:40                               ` segaloco via TUHS
2022-12-14  6:32                                 ` Rich Morin
2022-12-14  2:01                               ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-14  7:49                                 ` arnold
2022-12-14 11:54                                   ` Brad Spencer
2022-12-14 12:08                                     ` [TUHS] Re: (TUHS -> COFF?) Re: Clever code Michael Kjörling
2022-12-14 15:14                                     ` [TUHS] Microware's OS-9 (was: Clever code) G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-14 22:41                                       ` [TUHS] " John Cowan
2022-12-14  9:46                               ` [TUHS] Re: Clever code (was Re: Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? Harald Arnesen
2022-12-15 18:33                                 ` Liam Proven
2022-12-16 10:42                                   ` Harald Arnesen
2022-12-18 14:05                                     ` Liam Proven
2022-12-18 15:08                                       ` Stuff Received
2022-12-19 11:47                                         ` Liam Proven
2022-12-20  8:30                                       ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-20 11:57                                         ` Liam Proven
2022-12-15  0:29                 ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-15  2:54                   ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-15  5:36                     ` Bakul Shah
2022-12-15 14:02                       ` Dan Cross
2022-12-15 14:06                         ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-15 14:18                           ` Dan Cross
2022-12-15 14:02                       ` Larry McVoy
2022-12-15  8:01                     ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-12-12  9:48               ` [TUHS] Re: Clever code Michael Kjörling
2022-12-12 21:34             ` [TUHS] Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? Dave Horsfall
2022-12-12 21:46               ` Chet Ramey

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