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From: "Michael Kjörling" <michael@kjorling.se>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] The 2038 bug...
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:20:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0935488-ddd6-4d99-a034-c14305e62995@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdTPBeiKfSau8SD9Y1ru427Z3XErSNzCtwaF7CwFcKQGvcftg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 Jan 2021 12:08 -0500, from henry.r.bent@gmail.com (Henry Bent):
>> On recent Linux/i386 kernels it's actually 64 bits. In practice, only
>> users who are stuck with old i386 Linux versions will have a problem.
> 
> Do you happen to know what the cutoff is?  Are 2.6 kernels (still very
> common) safe?  3.x?  4.x?

I haven't dug particularly deeply, but unless I am missing something,
Debian Buster's 4.19 kernel seems to map `time_t` to plain `long`
regardless of architecture. I don't have an i386 architecture system
handy, but wouldn't that make it 32 bits wide on i386 & Co?

linux/time.h:

struct timespec {
        __kernel_time_t tv_sec;                 /* seconds */
        long            tv_nsec;                /* nanoseconds */
};

asm-generic/posix_types.h:

#ifndef __kernel_long_t
typedef long            __kernel_long_t;
typedef unsigned long   __kernel_ulong_t;
#endif
/* ... */
typedef __kernel_long_t __kernel_time_t;

Both from Debian's linux-libc-dev package, version 4.19.160-2, amd64
architecture.

If that's right, then I'd definitely expect anything 2.x and 3.x to be
unsafe, and 4.x to at best be suspect; so Dario's mention of 5.6
doesn't sound unreasonable as a first guess.

We've got maybe fifteen years before this starts to become a real
issue. Time to start working on those upgrade plans...

-- 
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se
 “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-06 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-31  7:19 Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31  7:24 ` Niklas Karlsson
2020-12-31  8:10   ` arnold
2020-12-31 15:30     ` Warner Losh
2020-12-31 16:09       ` Adam Thornton
2020-12-31 16:12         ` Larry McVoy
2021-01-11  7:18           ` alan
2021-01-11 14:01             ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 18:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2020-12-31 21:34           ` Warner Losh
2021-01-06 16:32       ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 17:08         ` Henry Bent
2021-01-06 18:05           ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 18:20           ` Michael Kjörling [this message]
2021-01-06 21:09         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31 19:18     ` Bakul Shah
2021-01-04  8:22 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2021-01-04  9:13   ` Angus Robinson
2021-01-04 21:49   ` Dave Horsfall
2021-01-04 21:56     ` Warner Losh
2021-01-05 18:05       ` Dan Cross
2021-01-06  7:21         ` Warner Losh
2021-01-07 22:56     ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-08  1:25       ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-01-10  6:56         ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-04  8:59 ` Sergio Pedraja
2021-01-07 22:50 ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-10  7:16 ` Valdimar Sigurdsson
2021-01-10  7:24   ` Niklas Karlsson
2021-01-10 10:15   ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 15:05 M Douglas McIlroy
2020-12-31 16:51 ` arnold
2020-12-31 23:31   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-01-09  8:44 Norman Wilson

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