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From: Mary Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] fmt(1): history, POSIX, -t, -c
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 09:08:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa5e315c-5719-dd7e-4564-67726b1a9651@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2OQJGDRM0ZsTXf0uk+kCxf0kCE9V33_YsZ7xhWLjMsCkw@mail.gmail.com>

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It's nice to see a uuencode email attachment once again!

Clem (who, by the way, is correct about the origin of fmt, it was part 
of Kurt Shoens' Mail program at Berkeley) has perfect timing. This 
coming Monday, 6/1/2020, is the 40th anniversary of the uuencode email 
attachment. (The date is based on the date in the uuencode man page in 
the 2.8BSD and 4.2BSD archives at 
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/ )

There has been some amusing coverage of the "25th anniversary of the 
email attachment", commemorating Nat Borenstien's creation of MIME in 1992.

Any thoughts on a proper commemoration of the 40th anniversary?

     Mary Ann

On 5/28/20 6:47 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> Ouch sorry for the extra stuff -- cut/paste error which I did not 
> realize until after delivery.
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:30 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com 
> <mailto:clemc@ccc.com>> wrote:
>
>     fmt was originally written by Kurt Shoens at UCB when he worked in
>     Mail and delivermail.
>
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>
>     On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 8:41 AM markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de
>     <mailto:meillo@marmaro.de>> wrote:
>
>         Hoi,
>
>         personally I use fmt(1) a lot for email formatting and such.
>         Typically I only use the `-w' parameter. Now someone asked me
>         about
>         `-t' and `-c' of *GNU* fmt(1). I wasn't able to find good
>         documentation
>         on them. The manpage only tells that they have to do with
>         different
>         indentation for the first or first two lines. But what are the use
>         cases? How would source text for these parameters look like?
>
>         A look into the description and rationale sections of POSIX, which
>         often provides helpful information, was not possible because
>         fmt(1)
>         is not part of POSIX (only fold(1) is). Why's that? Is it because
>         fmt(1) differs so much between Unix implementations? On BSD `-c'
>         centers text and `-t' sets tab widths. Plan 9 has none of these
>         options. But still, `-w' could have been standardized. Or was the
>         line filling algorithm different as well? How does fold(1) fit
>         into
>         the picture?
>
>         Maybe you can answer some of these questions or give hints on
>         where
>         I could find answers myself.
>
>
>         meillo
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-28 12:34 markus schnalke
2020-05-28 13:08 ` Rob Pike
2020-05-28 13:30 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-28 13:47   ` Clem Cole
2020-05-28 16:08     ` Mary Ann Horton [this message]
2020-05-28 18:00       ` Clem Cole
2020-05-28 18:35         ` Richard Salz
2020-05-28 18:51           ` Clem Cole
2020-05-29  0:18   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-05-29  5:10     ` Michael Stiller via TUHS
2020-05-29  5:19       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-05-29 13:39       ` Clem Cole
2020-05-29 15:43         ` Warner Losh
2020-05-29 16:12           ` Clem Cole
2020-05-29 17:14         ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-05-28 13:46 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-31 13:01   ` [TUHS] mh/hm, mmh (was: fmt(1): history, POSIX, -t, -c) markus schnalke
2020-05-31 14:53     ` Clem Cole
2020-05-31 16:25       ` Richard Salz
2020-05-31 16:50         ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-31 17:09       ` Ralph Corderoy
2020-05-31 17:25         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-05-31 17:28       ` [TUHS] mh/hm, mmh Mary Ann Horton
2020-05-31 18:56         ` Eric Allman
2020-05-31 19:49           ` Clem Cole
2020-05-31 21:31           ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-06-01  6:32             ` Caipenghui
2020-06-01  7:14             ` markus schnalke
2020-05-31 12:35 ` [TUHS] fmt(1): history, POSIX, -t, -c markus schnalke
2020-05-29  1:25 Doug McIlroy

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