* [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org
@ 2019-09-30 2:52 voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 5:01 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 2:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New issue by mahaer-mahmud on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835
Description:
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## Why I think we should abandon GitHub and move to NotABug.org
You may feel tempted to use GitHub since it's the moat popular website for code hosting... you should think twice, however. GitHub has a couple of issues with itself. The free software alternative ``notabug.org`` gets rid of those issues.
1. GitHub does not allow some countries to use its service
For example, [look at what they did to Iranian developers](https://medium.com/@d.aliyamini/microsoft-enters-github-banned-iranian-developers-843f7c60a146). GitHub is doing this because the state government is anti-American, and does not fit Microsoft's pro-American agenda. In reality, most Iranian developers are innocent people who would not decline to meet an American. Based on this, it seems GitHub will ban other countries with crazy governments but good people (for example, Indonesia). So if you don't condone developer discrimination, don't develop on GitHub.
2. GitHub is not free (as in freedom) software
Since GitHub is not free software, it does not respect your four freedoms. It can mess with you whatever it wants, even if it's harmful to the developer, so as long as it benefits the company.
3. GitHub may not be secure
I get it, you're not looking for state-of-the-art encryption here. But since GitHub's owned by the big Microsoft, the big security agencies can judge you based on your activity. And they can treat you unfairly; as far as I know, these agencies aren't required to follow the constitution.
Thankfully, at least one of those reasons made you switch to ``notabug.org``. If you do switch, it would be a big benefit to you, as you are using a service oriented to the hacker and not the corporation.
However, if you don't have the nerve to go to ``notabug.org``, go to ``codeberg.org``, or set up your own Gittea instance.
Thank you for your time.
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 5:01 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 6:02 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536401818
Comment:
We use much more than just issues from github if you havent noticed.
The only real alternative would be gitlab, but it was decided against because its too much work for no gain.
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* Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 5:01 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 6:02 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 8:17 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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Closed issue by mahaer-mahmud on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835
Description:
<!-- Don't request update of package. We have a script for that. https://alpha.de.repo.voidlinux.org/void-updates/void-updates.txt . However, a quality pull request may help. -->
## Why I think we should abandon GitHub and move to NotABug.org
You may feel tempted to use GitHub since it's the most popular website for code hosting... you should think twice, however. GitHub has a couple of issues with itself. The free software alternative ``notabug.org`` gets rid of those issues.
1. GitHub does not allow some countries to use its service
For example, [look at what they did to Iranian developers](https://medium.com/@d.aliyamini/microsoft-enters-github-banned-iranian-developers-843f7c60a146). GitHub is doing this because the state government is anti-American, and does not fit Microsoft's pro-American agenda. In reality, most Iranian developers are innocent people who would not decline to meet an American. Based on this, it seems GitHub will ban other countries with crazy governments but good people (for example, Indonesia). So if you don't condone developer discrimination, don't develop on GitHub.
2. GitHub is not free (as in freedom) software
Since GitHub is not free software, it does not respect your four freedoms. It can mess with you whatever it wants, even if it's harmful to the developer, so as long as it benefits the company.
3. GitHub may not be secure
I get it, you're not looking for state-of-the-art encryption here. But since GitHub's owned by the big Microsoft, the big security agencies can judge you based on your activity. And they can treat you unfairly; as far as I know, these agencies aren't required to follow the constitution.
Thankfully, at least one of those reasons made you switch to ``notabug.org``. If you do switch, it would be a big benefit to you, as you are using a service oriented to the hacker and not the corporation.
However, if you don't have the nerve to go to ``notabug.org``, go to ``codeberg.org``, go to a Gitea instance, or set up your own.
Thank you for your time.
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 5:01 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 6:02 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 8:17 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 9:52 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by mahaer-mahmud on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536455019
Comment:
> We use much more than just issues from github if you havent noticed.
>
> The only real alternative would be gitlab, but it was decided against because its too much work for no gain.
What can I use to make the Void maintainers switch to ``notabug.org``?
And why would gaining freedom be too much work?
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 8:17 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 9:52 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 9:53 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 9:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536490081
Comment:
@mahaer-mahmud well if you create an infrastructure at `notabug.org` which automatically tests builds on all Void supported platforms and returns this build status to the platform into the PR, allow people to login via their github login data and trigger builds for the [Void BuildBot]https://build.voidlinux.org) once the PRs are merged and all that for completely free now and forever, then I guess it would be a start so we can look if we get everything else that we need working too.
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 9:52 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 9:53 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 9:53 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536490081
Comment:
@mahaer-mahmud well if you create an infrastructure at `notabug.org` which automatically tests builds on all Void supported platforms and returns this build status to the platform into the PR, allow people to login via their github login data and trigger builds for the [Void-BuildBot]https://build.voidlinux.org) once the PRs are merged and all that for completely free now and forever, then I guess it would be a start so we can look if we get everything else that we need working too.
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 9:53 ` voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 9:54 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536490081
Comment:
@mahaer-mahmud well if you create an infrastructure at `notabug.org` which automatically tests builds on all Void supported platforms and returns this build status to the platform into the PR, allow people to login via their github login data and trigger builds for the [Void BuildBot](https://build.voidlinux.org) once the PRs are merged and all that for completely free now and forever, then I guess it would be a start so we can look if we get everything else that we need working too.
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 9:53 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 9:54 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 10:30 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 10:33 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ml
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536490081
Comment:
@mahaer-mahmud well if you create an infrastructure at `notabug.org` which automatically tests builds on all Void supported platforms and returns this build status to the platform into the PR, allow people to login via their github login data and trigger builds for the [Void BuildBot](https://build.voidlinux.org) once the PRs are merged and all that for completely free now and forever, then I guess it would be a start so we can look if we get everything else that we need working too (even then highly unlikely, because nobody got the time to do all these changes for no use).
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 9:54 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 10:30 ` voidlinux-github
2019-09-30 10:33 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by mahaer-mahmud on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536502755
Comment:
@Anachron What do you mean by 'platform' and 'PR'?
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* Re: Migrate to notabug.org
2019-09-30 2:52 [ISSUE] Migrate to notabug.org voidlinux-github
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2019-09-30 10:30 ` voidlinux-github
@ 2019-09-30 10:33 ` voidlinux-github
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From: voidlinux-github @ 2019-09-30 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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New comment by Anachron on void-packages repository
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/14835#issuecomment-536503590
Comment:
`Platform` = Architecture + LIBC-Variant. Like `x86_64-glibc` and `aarch64-musl`, for example.
`PR`: Pull Request. (See https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pulls)
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