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* Network setup twice during void installation?
@ 2015-09-16 12:38 Donald Allen
  2015-09-17 14:11 ` Juan RP
  2016-01-08 14:25 ` Donald Allen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Donald Allen @ 2015-09-16 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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Running void-installer, one of the early items is 'Network'. I dutifully 
set up the network (in the install I just did, I set up the ethernet 
interface with a static IP address). The next step in the install relates 
to where the installation files are coming from (I've forgotten the exact 
wording in the menu). When you select that, you have two options: local and 
network. If you select 'network' it asks you to set up the network again. 
As an experiment, as this point I set it up to use dhcp, to see if the 
second setup over-rode the first. It does, as evidenced by the system 
coming up post-install with an assigned IP address, rather than the static 
address I'd previously specified. What is going on here? On the face of it, 
asking twice for the network setup makes no sense and I have not yet found 
any documentation explaining what the installer thinks it's doing. Is there 
a sensible rationale for this or is it a bug?

/Don Allen


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* Re: Network setup twice during void installation?
  2015-09-16 12:38 Network setup twice during void installation? Donald Allen
@ 2015-09-17 14:11 ` Juan RP
  2015-09-17 22:00   ` Donald Allen
  2015-09-20  2:29   ` Donald Allen
  2016-01-08 14:25 ` Donald Allen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juan RP @ 2015-09-17 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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It is a bug that must be fixed...


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* Re: Network setup twice during void installation?
  2015-09-17 14:11 ` Juan RP
@ 2015-09-17 22:00   ` Donald Allen
  2015-09-20  2:29   ` Donald Allen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Donald Allen @ 2015-09-17 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 10:11:42 AM UTC-4, Juan RP wrote:
>
> It is a bug that must be fixed...
>

Ok -- thanks. Knowing that helps to work around it in subsequent installs 
prior to the fix. 

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* Re: Network setup twice during void installation?
  2015-09-17 14:11 ` Juan RP
  2015-09-17 22:00   ` Donald Allen
@ 2015-09-20  2:29   ` Donald Allen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Donald Allen @ 2015-09-20  2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 10:11:42 AM UTC-4, Juan RP wrote:
>
> It is a bug that must be fixed...
>

I think there are a couple of additional issues relating to this:

1. When attempting to specify a network configuration (either the first or 
second time -- we agree that there ought to be just one), if you choose the 
wireless interface on a machine that has both, you are not given the option 
of specifying a static ip address (I use static ip addresses for all my 
Linux machines, so I can address them by names given in /etc/hosts for ssh, 
scp and rsync purposes).

2. When I do choose the wireless interface and specify the SSID for the 
wifi network in my home, 'wpa' as the encryption method, and supply the 
correct password, I get a an error message (I don't have the exact wording 
in front of me) saying that an attempt to acquire an ip address via dhcp 
failed. This exact process works correctly every day with our cell phones 
and tablets, so there's nothing wrong with the base station or its dhcp 
server

I would suggest having a look at the OpenBSD installer. It is a model of 
quick, efficient system installation. Obviously it won't apply verbatim 
(since BSD disk partitioning is a world unto itself and it is a purely 
text-based installer, not curses-based), but I suspect a lot of it could be 
useful as a guide. 

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* Re: Network setup twice during void installation?
  2015-09-16 12:38 Network setup twice during void installation? Donald Allen
  2015-09-17 14:11 ` Juan RP
@ 2016-01-08 14:25 ` Donald Allen
  2016-01-08 16:16   ` sth
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Donald Allen @ 2016-01-08 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 8:38:29 AM UTC-4, Donald Allen wrote:
>
> Running void-installer, one of the early items is 'Network'. I dutifully 
> set up the network (in the install I just did, I set up the ethernet 
> interface with a static IP address). The next step in the install relates 
> to where the installation files are coming from (I've forgotten the exact 
> wording in the menu). When you select that, you have two options: local and 
> network. If you select 'network' it asks you to set up the network again. 
> As an experiment, as this point I set it up to use dhcp, to see if the 
> second setup over-rode the first. It does, as evidenced by the system 
> coming up post-install with an assigned IP address, rather than the static 
> address I'd previously specified. What is going on here? On the face of it, 
> asking twice for the network setup makes no sense and I have not yet found 
> any documentation explaining what the installer thinks it's doing. Is there 
> a sensible rationale for this or is it a bug?
>
> /Don Allen
>

Any idea when this will be fixed? It really is pretty bogus and I'm 
surprised that it hasn't been addressed in the four months since I 
originally posted this. I would think that asking the question "has the 
network already been configured?" and skipping the request to set it up 
again (and then, after collecting the information, failing -- a new 
behavior since I last tried Void, which is even more annoying; this is like 
calling your credit card company, being asked to type in the account number 
and then when a human comes on the line, asks for your account number) 
would not be difficult.

/Don Allen 

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* Re: Network setup twice during void installation?
  2016-01-08 14:25 ` Donald Allen
@ 2016-01-08 16:16   ` sth
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: sth @ 2016-01-08 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: voidlinux

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I think PRs are gladly accepted, if you have time to look into this. 

--seth

> On 08 Jan 2016, at 15:25, Donald Allen <donald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 8:38:29 AM UTC-4, Donald Allen wrote:
>> Running void-installer, one of the early items is 'Network'. I dutifully set up the network (in the install I just did, I set up the ethernet interface with a static IP address). The next step in the install relates to where the installation files are coming from (I've forgotten the exact wording in the menu). When you select that, you have two options: local and network. If you select 'network' it asks you to set up the network again. As an experiment, as this point I set it up to use dhcp, to see if the second setup over-rode the first. It does, as evidenced by the system coming up post-install with an assigned IP address, rather than the static address I'd previously specified. What is going on here? On the face of it, asking twice for the network setup makes no sense and I have not yet found any documentation explaining what the installer thinks it's doing. Is there a sensible rationale for this or is it a bug?
>> 
>> /Don Allen
> 
> Any idea when this will be fixed? It really is pretty bogus and I'm surprised that it hasn't been addressed in the four months since I originally posted this. I would think that asking the question "has the network already been configured?" and skipping the request to set it up again (and then, after collecting the information, failing -- a new behavior since I last tried Void, which is even more annoying; this is like calling your credit card company, being asked to type in the account number and then when a human comes on the line, asks for your account number) would not be difficult.
> 
> /Don Allen 
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