Plans for 5.3?

Plans for 5.3?

[Christian Heinrich]

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Hi,

Peter said at the beginning of July that he wanted to release zsh 5.3
pretty soon (see #38784), but if I see that correctly, it wasn't
released yet. (I'm quite aware that there were many things to be
patched...)

Are there still some issues that continue to block a new release? I'm
asking, since Debian is going to freeze the packages at the beginning
of January and I'm still hoping that 5.3 could make it into the new
stable release, especially since a lot of patches and completions were
added.

Thanks a lot for your work!

Christian

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Re: Plans for 5.3?

[Bart Schaefer]

On Nov 30, 11:00pm, Christian Heinrich wrote:
}
} Are there still some issues that continue to block a new release? I'm
} asking, since Debian is going to freeze the packages at the beginning
} of January and I'm still hoping that 5.3 could make it into the new
} stable release, especially since a lot of patches and completions were
} added.

Peter has subsequently said that he wants 5.3 to be out before Christmas.
We've called a moritorium on further optimizations (we got a lot of those
in the last few weeks that we weren't really expecting).

So I would expect 5.3 to be out in time for January.

Re: Plans for 5.3?

[Axel Beckert]

Hi,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 03:56:12PM -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Nov 30, 11:00pm, Christian Heinrich wrote:
> } Are there still some issues that continue to block a new release? I'm
> } asking, since Debian is going to freeze the packages at the beginning
> } of January and I'm still hoping that 5.3 could make it into the new
> } stable release, especially since a lot of patches and completions were
> } added.

Thanks for bringing this up. Was on my TODO list, too.

> Peter has subsequently said that he wants 5.3 to be out before
> Christmas.

That's actually necessary to get 5.3 into the next Debian Stable
release.

> We've called a moritorium on further optimizations (we got a lot of those
> in the last few weeks that we weren't really expecting).
> 
> So I would expect 5.3 to be out in time for January.

Sounds as if this will become a close one. Some more details on the
timeline:

Debian's freeze for new upstream releases for the next Stable release
is on 5th of January 2017. This means that I need to upload 5.3 to
Debian Unstable latest on 24th of December to have chance to get it
transitioned from "Unstable" to "Testing" before 5th of January.

Details on the timeline at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/11/msg00002.html

This though only works if there's no so called release-critical bug
found in the package (which would prevent the transitioning), hence
the earlier, the better, so that potential bugs can be fixed in time
before Christmas.

If I can upload 5.3 only just in time on Christmas eve, the transition will
become a little bit like a lottery.

		Kind regards, Axel
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Re: Plans for 5.3?

[Vincent Lefevre]

Hi,

On 2016-12-01 03:28:16 +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 03:56:12PM -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> > Peter has subsequently said that he wants 5.3 to be out before
> > Christmas.
> 
> That's actually necessary to get 5.3 into the next Debian Stable
> release.

Yes, an unpatched 5.2 is too buggy (in particular, I got crashes).
On my Debian machines, I had to rebuild zsh with 5 local patches.

> > We've called a moritorium on further optimizations (we got a lot
> > of those in the last few weeks that we weren't really expecting).
> > 
> > So I would expect 5.3 to be out in time for January.
> 
> Sounds as if this will become a close one. Some more details on the
> timeline:
> 
> Debian's freeze for new upstream releases for the next Stable release
> is on 5th of January 2017. This means that I need to upload 5.3 to
> Debian Unstable latest on 24th of December to have chance to get it
> transitioned from "Unstable" to "Testing" before 5th of January.
> 
> Details on the timeline at
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/11/msg00002.html
> 
> This though only works if there's no so called release-critical bug
> found in the package (which would prevent the transitioning), hence
> the earlier, the better, so that potential bugs can be fixed in time
> before Christmas.
> 
> If I can upload 5.3 only just in time on Christmas eve, the
> transition will become a little bit like a lottery.

In the mean time, perhaps there could be a snapshot (I would have
actually hoped an alpha or beta release) in experimental, in case
bugs would be detected.

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Re: Plans for 5.3?

[Axel Beckert]

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:25:02PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > If I can upload 5.3 only just in time on Christmas eve, the
> > transition will become a little bit like a lottery.
> 
> In the mean time, perhaps there could be a snapshot

I thought about that, too, yes.

> (I would have actually hoped an alpha or beta release) in
> experimental, in case bugs would be detected.

Pws released 5.2-test-1 only recently, so there was none until
recently. But I'll upload that to Debian Experimental for testing soon
(either tonight or tomorrow).

		Kind regards, Axel
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