From: "Clinton Bunch" <cdbunch@bansai.ucs.uoknor.edu>
To: schaefer@nbn.com, zsh-users@math.gatech.edu, zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc.
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:58:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <960610155834.ZM11010@bansai.ucs.uoknor.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: "Bart Schaefer" <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com> "Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc." (Jun 10, 12:54pm)
On Jun 10, 12:54pm, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc.
> On Jun 10, 2:22pm, Clinton Bunch wrote:
> } Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc.
> }
> } On Jun 5, 2:25pm, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> }
> } >
> } > } >zsh 4.0:
> } > } >
> } > } >1. wzsh (windowing zsh) is now available. Also, zsh now has colour
> } > } > and menu capabilities on text only terminals.
> } > }
> } > } It has colour capabilities to some extent: you can put colour sequences
> } > } into prompts quite easily. I don't see any advantage in having zsh use
> } > } windows in any way.
> } >
> } > I tend to agree. At this point you've rewritten emacs. Just *get*
emacs,
> } > and run zsh in a shell buffer.
> }
> } Wrong. At this point, you've written a shell whose scripts can use
> } GUI objects to interact with end users.
>
> Exactly what kind of "GUI objects" are we talking about here? The only
> thing the phrase "windowing zsh" conjures in my mind is something that
> looks like a bunch of xterms each running a shell.
see below.
>
> It sounds to me like you want wish (the tcl/tk shell). I don't think
> it's appropriate to bloat zsh with a GUI-object-description language.
> You can launch wish GUIs from $(...) if you need to feed the results
> back into zsh (or any other shell).
>
First, Tcl has got to have the ugliest syntax of any language known to
man. Second, Tk is a very poor rip-off of Motif and almost as ugly as Athena.
What I'm talking about is something that actually allows X/Xt/Motif calls from
within the shell (a la dtksh). This wouldn't be zsh but a parallel and
derivate
work ( wzsh ). This, of course, would best be accomplished through a dynamic
(or even not so dynamic) extension interface for adding builtins. These
changes would be similar to the ones made for ksh93 in support of dtksh.
>
> ?? Are you sure it's proprietary?
Yes, dtksh is based off Korn Shell 93 and source code is not freely
available AFAIK.
>
> --
> Bart Schaefer Brass Lantern Enterprises
> http://www.well.com/user/barts http://www.nbn.com/people/lantern
>
> New male in /home/schaefer:
> >N 2 Justin William Schaefer Sat May 11 03:43 53/4040 "Happy Birthday"
>-- End of excerpt from Bart Schaefer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1996-06-10 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-04-10 10:31 History file locking? Russell Senior
1996-04-10 12:12 ` Zefram
1996-04-10 12:41 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-04-10 12:50 ` Zefram
[not found] ` <A.Main@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-04-10 16:26 ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 17:08 ` Anthony Heading
[not found] ` <aheading@jpmorgan.com>
1996-04-10 17:12 ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 18:03 ` Anthony Heading
1996-06-05 21:25 ` Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc Bart Schaefer
[not found] ` <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com>
1996-06-10 19:22 ` Clinton Bunch
1996-06-10 19:54 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-10 20:24 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-06-10 20:58 ` Clinton Bunch [this message]
1996-06-24 18:26 ` BUG: useheap in doexpandhist() Barton E. Schaefer
1996-06-24 19:11 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-24 21:20 ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-06-25 0:01 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-25 0:22 ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-07-23 20:01 ` Bug in case stmt with '(' Morris M. Siegel
1996-07-23 21:55 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-07-24 8:29 ` Zefram
1996-07-24 9:52 ` Peter Stephenson
1996-07-24 11:10 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-07-24 14:16 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-04-10 21:21 ` History file locking? Zoltan Hidvegi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-27 19:54 comptest* failed to load module: zsh/termcap Peter Whaite
2001-04-28 6:10 ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-28 8:55 ` Andrej Borsenkow
2001-04-30 15:44 ` Peter Whaite
2001-04-30 16:30 ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 16:47 ` Andrej Borsenkow
2001-04-30 17:16 ` PATCH: " Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 18:54 ` Peter Whaite
2001-04-30 19:12 ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 15:32 ` Peter Whaite
1997-01-31 10:47 history-search-backward Peter Stephenson
1997-01-31 12:16 ` history-search-backward Zefram
1997-01-31 12:42 ` history-search-backward Peter Stephenson
1997-01-31 15:02 ` history-search-backward Bart Schaefer
1997-01-31 15:23 ` history-search-backward Vinnie Shelton
1997-01-31 19:02 ` history-search-backward Zoltan Hidvegi
1997-01-31 19:13 ` history-search-backward Wayne Davison
1996-12-13 2:30 fifo configure check Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 14:41 Parameter expansion bug? Anthony Heading
1996-10-31 15:13 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-10-31 16:12 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 20:49 ` Anthony Heading
[not found] <17651.199607222123@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-07-23 14:08 ` Bug in case stmt with '(' Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-07-23 16:25 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-22 20:12 BUG: useheap in doexpandhist() Bart Schaefer
1996-06-02 17:59 Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc Fung-Chai Lim
1996-06-02 21:26 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
[not found] ` <1062.199606041027@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-03-12 19:03 Buffered stderr on Linux Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-12 19:24 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-03-12 20:26 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-12 23:17 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-13 0:16 ` Steven L Baur
[not found] ` <hzoli@cs.elte.hu>
1996-03-16 18:46 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-04-10 21:41 ` History file locking? Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 22:16 ` Daniel Dignam
1996-06-26 13:51 ` Use of qualifiers without glob pattern? Bart Schaefer
1996-06-26 14:01 ` Regression tests Bas V. de Bakker
1996-06-26 14:52 ` Use of qualifiers without glob pattern? Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-26 15:54 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-27 1:03 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 16:55 ` Parameter expansion bug? Bart Schaefer
1996-10-31 16:57 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-10-31 17:04 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 17:47 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-12-13 3:37 ` fifo configure check Bart Schaefer
1996-12-13 8:58 ` fifo configure check (seems to work here: Solaris 2.4) C. v. Stuckrad
1996-12-13 14:44 ` fifo configure check Zefram
1996-12-13 17:33 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
[not found] ` <wayne@clari.net>
1997-01-31 22:01 ` history-search-backward Bart Schaefer
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