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From: "Bart Schaefer" <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com>
To: Zoltan Hidvegi <hzoli@cs.elte.hu>,
	borsenkow.msk@sni.de, zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: sh compatibility again :->
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:36:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <960811213634.ZM4881@candle.brasslantern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Zoltan Hidvegi <hzoli@cs.elte.hu> "Re: sh compatibility again :->" (Aug 12,  4:18am)

On Aug 12,  4:18am, Zoltan Hidvegi wrote:
} Subject: Re: sh compatibility again :->
}
} Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
} [...]
} > 1. It doesn't like malformed constructs like
} > 
} > A="`cat /some/file"    (note missed backtick)
} > 
} > zsh tries to parse command substitution behind closing double-quote, and
} > ends up with `missing "' at the end of script. Our /bin/sh stops at
} > closing double-quote. In POSIX the result is undefined - thus, techically
} > neither violate it. 
} 
} I copied the behaviour of bash here.  pdksh also behaves this way.

Right; if I recall correctly, bash and ksh both permit stuff like:

$ echo "foo `echo "bar baz"` boing"

That is, bash and ksh nest double quotes inside backticks.  Old-fashioned
Bourne shell, on the other hand, does NOT permit nesting of double quotes,
even inside backticks.  So in bash/ksh the above is parsed as

	(echo) (foo `echo "bar baz"` boing)

but in sh it is

	(echo) (foo `echo bar) (baz` boing)

The only way to resolve this would be with yet another option, SH_QUOTES
or some such.  Worth it?  Dunno.

} > But the following things could probably be fixed 
} > 
} > 4. Traditional /bin/sh interprets `set -' as set +xv.
} 
} OK.  I've changed that.  set - will be the same as set +xv and
} set - args will be the same as set +xv -- args.

Hmm.  So what's the approved way of setting $1 to "-x"?  `set -- -x`?
And is `set --` equivalent to `shift $#`, since `set -` is not?

Are you sure `set - args` should act like `set +xv -- args`?

I can't say I'm entirely excited about this change.

} > 5. Currently zsh sets BSD_ECHO when running as sh. Our sh does support
} > escapes in echo; I recall that SCO sh does it as well. I don't know about
} > others. What about relaxing it? If scripts doesn't rely upon escapes in
} > echo, it would make no harm.
} 
} I'll try to write a configure check for the echo style of /bin/sh and use
} that.

Eww, no.  Let's pick one behavior and stick with it, please.  The default
options, even in an emulation mode, shouldn't vary from one installation
to the next!  It's been a long time since I encountered an sh that didn't
have a builtin SysV-style echo -- BSD_ECHO is needed mostly for csh
compatibility.  I'd vote for leaving BSD_ECHO off when run as "sh".

-- 
Bart Schaefer                             Brass Lantern Enterprises
http://www.well.com/user/barts            http://www.nbn.com/people/lantern

New male in /home/schaefer:
>N  2 Justin William Schaefer  Sat May 11 03:43  53/4040  "Happy Birthday"


  reply	other threads:[~1996-08-12  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-07-31 21:11 Announcement draft Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-07-31 22:15 ` Zefram
1996-08-01  6:36 ` Bas V. de Bakker
1996-08-01  8:31   ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01  9:04     ` Running zsh as sh (Was: Announcement draft) Bas V. de Bakker
1996-08-01  9:10     ` Announcement draft Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-01 13:49       ` Here docs Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 14:07         ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 16:27           ` More Configure problems Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 17:40             ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 17:55               ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 21:03                 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 23:30                   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-02  8:32                   ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-02 10:03                     ` Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-02 13:29                       ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-02  1:03             ` Zefram
1996-08-01 14:42   ` Announcement draft Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-08 15:13 ` sh compatibility again :-> Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-12  2:18   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-12  4:36     ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
1996-08-12  5:00       ` Zefram
1996-08-12  6:01         ` Bart Schaefer
1996-08-12  6:34           ` Bart Schaefer
1996-08-12  6:20       ` Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-12 15:29 whukriede

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