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From: Zefram <A.Main@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
To: schaefer@nbn.com
Cc: hzoli@cs.elte.hu, borsenkow.msk@sni.de, zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: sh compatibility again :->
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 06:00:56 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9940.199608120500@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <960811213634.ZM4881@candle.brasslantern.com> from "Bart Schaefer" at Aug 11, 96 09:36:34 pm

>Right; if I recall correctly, bash and ksh both permit stuff like:
>
>$ echo "foo `echo "bar baz"` boing"
>
>That is, bash and ksh nest double quotes inside backticks.  Old-fashioned
>Bourne shell, on the other hand, does NOT permit nesting of double quotes,
>even inside backticks.
...
>The only way to resolve this would be with yet another option, SH_QUOTES
>or some such.  Worth it?  Dunno.

Not worth it.  POSIX leaves the behaviour undefined IIRC, and there's
no advantage in the traditional behaviour.

>} I'll try to write a configure check for the echo style of /bin/sh and use
>} that.
>
>Eww, no.  Let's pick one behavior and stick with it, please.  The default
>options, even in an emulation mode, shouldn't vary from one installation
>to the next!  It's been a long time since I encountered an sh that didn't
>have a builtin SysV-style echo -- BSD_ECHO is needed mostly for csh
>compatibility.  I'd vote for leaving BSD_ECHO off when run as "sh".

I also recommend against a configure check, but for a different reason:
some widespread shs (notably SunOS and Solaris) vary their echo
behaviour depending on $PATH, trying to emulate what would happen if
echo weren't a builtin.  It's really quite difficult to reliably detect
this behaviour.  I suggest that the behaviour should remain as it is.

-zefram


  reply	other threads:[~1996-08-12  5:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-07-31 21:11 Announcement draft Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-07-31 22:15 ` Zefram
1996-08-01  6:36 ` Bas V. de Bakker
1996-08-01  8:31   ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01  9:04     ` Running zsh as sh (Was: Announcement draft) Bas V. de Bakker
1996-08-01  9:10     ` Announcement draft Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-01 13:49       ` Here docs Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 14:07         ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 16:27           ` More Configure problems Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 17:40             ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-01 17:55               ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 21:03                 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-01 23:30                   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-02  8:32                   ` Peter Stephenson
1996-08-02 10:03                     ` Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-02 13:29                       ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-02  1:03             ` Zefram
1996-08-01 14:42   ` Announcement draft Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-08 15:13 ` sh compatibility again :-> Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-12  2:18   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-08-12  4:36     ` Bart Schaefer
1996-08-12  5:00       ` Zefram [this message]
1996-08-12  6:01         ` Bart Schaefer
1996-08-12  6:34           ` Bart Schaefer
1996-08-12  6:20       ` Andrej Borsenkow
1996-08-12 15:29 whukriede

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