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From: Arseny Maslennikov <ar@cs.msu.ru>
To: Marlon <marlon.richert@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>,
	Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:30:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHcKjmoRmpcy+Cks@cello> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6CEA4F3E-9A64-44E1-9121-FA9D5E053AB5@gmail.com>

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On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 04:17:02PM +0300, Marlon wrote:
> > Why shouldn't the
> > theme just advise people to set the vcs_info directly?
> 
> Because it’s a theme? If people wanted to style their vcs_info directly, then why would they use a theme? Conversely, VCS info is the number one thing that new users want to add to their prompt. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that to be included out of the box.

This has not been brought up in this thread, but prompt themes do accept
command line arguments. So we could have «prompt marlon» which does not
include vcs_info in the prompt for the users that want a more responsive
prompt or use rotational storage, and «prompt marlon --vcs-info» which does.

vcs_info is designed just so it is configured separately with its own
zstyles, though; IMHO it's unfair for a prompt theme to modify that
configuration, but OK to make a decision to use/unuse it.

> Nearly all of 3rd-party prompt themes in the wild include at least Git info.

They do that mainly to advertise to people that zsh + vcs_info can do
this, and to encourage them to use their shell creatively.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-13 19:41 Marlon
2021-04-13 20:31 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2021-04-13 20:44 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-04-14  5:09   ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-14  5:17     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-04-14  5:45       ` Marlon
2021-04-14 12:05         ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-14 13:17           ` Marlon
2021-04-14 14:09             ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-15  1:07               ` Bart Schaefer
2021-04-15  3:50               ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-15 20:27                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-15 23:42                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-15 11:11               ` Mikael Magnusson
2021-04-15 16:44                 ` vcs_info's global variables (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme) Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-16 16:04                 ` [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme Marlon
2021-04-16 17:13                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-16 19:19                     ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-16 19:30                       ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-19 16:46                         ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-02 17:18                           ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-03  2:38                             ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-03  4:11                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-03 11:38                                 ` [PATCH] Add customizable `vcs` prompt theme (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme) Marlon Richert
2021-05-09 18:04                                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-31  1:01                                     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-06-09 12:58                                       ` Marlon Richert
2021-06-09 13:22                                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2021-06-09 18:06                                           ` Marlon Richert
2021-06-10  9:30                                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2021-06-10 13:47                                               ` Marlon Richert
2021-06-10 14:01                                                 ` Marlon Richert
2021-06-10 17:45                                                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2021-06-20 22:13                                                   ` Marlon Richert
2021-06-23 17:26                                                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-08-08 10:12                                                       ` Marlon Richert
2022-08-08 10:17                                                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2021-04-14 14:09             ` sysexits.h codes? (was: " Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-30 19:40               ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-30 21:16                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-30 21:34                   ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-01 15:09                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-30 21:40                   ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-01 13:39                   ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-01 14:43                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-05-03 11:36                       ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-03 16:04                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-05-04 11:13                           ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-21 11:38                             ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-14 15:30             ` Arseny Maslennikov [this message]
2021-04-14 18:52               ` [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-14 14:00           ` precmd hooks and $? Bart Schaefer
2021-04-14 15:18             ` docs patches for precmd hooks and $?, and vcs_info Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-15  2:35               ` Bart Schaefer
2021-04-15 16:17               ` Archives render attachments as first-class messages (was: docs patches for precmd hooks and $?, and vcs_info) Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-15 18:54           ` [RFC][PATCH] Reset ZLE hooks when changing prompt themes (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] `newuser` prompt theme) Marlon
2021-04-15 21:34             ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-04-16 22:34               ` Marlon Richert
2021-04-25 16:08                 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-02 17:03                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-02 17:59                 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-05-05  6:10                   ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-16 15:27                     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-05-16 19:31                       ` Marlon Richert
2021-05-17  4:19                         ` Bart Schaefer

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