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From: Alexander Weps <exander77@pm.me>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [musl] Broken mktime calculations when crossing DST boundary
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 16:54:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <-44SZR0LbVoyD5lp_9VrAFnIjGNbDvibCVUYEprqMToPidjopTHM4aLZuhjomrGJtvpGrc_gjrgK6roKWwunjEkk1y-BKRhtlGpWjnslQNA=@pm.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240323153146.GS4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

One of the main purposes of struct tm is to calculate date and time, by adding and substracting it's fields.

> mktime cannot tell whether your non-normalized input was the result of
> you starting with 01:00:02 and adding 1 hour (in which case, our
> output does not reflect your intent) or of you starting with 3:00:02
> and subtracting 1 hour (in which case, our output does reflect your
> intent).

We are not adding hours here, your example is completely unrelated.

We are adding or subtracting minutes that changes hours.

tm_sec: 2
tm_min: 60
tm_hour: 1

vs

tm_sec: 2
tm_min: 0
tm_hour: 2

And:

tm_sec: 2
tm_min: 59
tm_hour: 1

vs

tm_sec: 2
tm_min: -1
tm_hour: 2

AW


On Saturday, March 23rd, 2024 at 16:31, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 01:49:48PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
>
> > I don't think time can go backwards by incrementing field under any conditions.
> >
> > Going from:
> > tm_sec: 2
> > tm_min: 60
> > tm_hour: 1
> > tm_mday: 31
> > tm_mon: 2
> > tm_year: 124
> > tm_wday: 0
> > tm_yday: 90
> > tm_isdst: -1
> >
> > To:
tm_sec: 1
tm_min: 59
tm_hour: 2
> > tm_sec: 2
> > tm_min: 0
> > tm_hour: 1
> > tm_mday: 31
> > tm_mon: 2
> > tm_year: 124
> > tm_wday: 0
> > tm_yday: 90
> > tm_isdst: 0
> >
> > Seems to be plain wrong. I cannot come up with any argument for this
> > being correct under any conditions.
>
>
> The above broke-down time is 2:00:02, which does not exist on that day
> as a normalized time. If interpreted as non-DST, it would be just a
> couple seconds past the end of non-DST (1:59:59.99999..). If
> interpreted as DST, it would be just under an hour before the start of
> DST (3:00:00), which, after normalization, is 1:00:02 non-DST.
>
> mktime cannot tell whether your non-normalized input was the result of
> you starting with 01:00:02 and adding 1 hour (in which case, our
> output does not reflect your intent) or of you starting with 3:00:02
> and subtracting 1 hour (in which case, our output does reflect your
> intent).
>
> > mktime was given a struct tm with uncertain STD/DST, it deduced it
> > is STD and then thrown away 60 minute information. The minutes got
> > reset from 60 to 0 and no other change was done.
>
>
> It did not deduce it was STD. It deduced it was non-normalized DST
> rather than non-normalized STD (this is an arbitrary choice), then
> normalized it and got STD.
>
> Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-23 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-22 19:56 Alexander Weps
2024-03-23  6:41 ` Markus Wichmann
     [not found]   ` <528SeRFaPfDw7fA4kqKDlio1U4RB_t9nmUemPcWw9_t1e2hBDpXYFmOqxAC37szgYvAVtmTuXWsmT64SSN3cSQFVdrQqXUAgkdTMPZQ0bg0=@pm.me>
2024-03-23 10:38     ` Markus Wichmann
2024-03-23 11:59       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:00         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:31           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 13:49             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 15:31               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 16:54                 ` Alexander Weps [this message]
2024-03-23 18:57                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 19:33                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 20:18                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 20:40                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24  0:36                         ` Eric Pruitt
2024-03-24  2:04                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24  3:32                           ` Daniel Gutson
2024-03-24 11:05                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:24                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:01         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:36 Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 16:59 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 17:04 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 17:12   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:00     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:02     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:16       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:24         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:36           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:01             ` Joakim Sindholt
2024-03-24 19:05               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:06             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:22             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 19:57               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 20:50                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 21:43                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 23:51                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25  0:36                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 11:52                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 12:21                       ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 12:55                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:08                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:13                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:13                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:24                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:42                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:48                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:50                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:02                                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:28                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:53                                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:57                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 19:38                                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 19:47                                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:05                                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:12                                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:00                                           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:23                                             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:31                                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 23:19                                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 23:16                                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 13:44                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 22:40                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 22:59                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:34                               ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 12:45                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-26 21:59                                   ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  0:14                                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  0:38                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  1:35                                       ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  2:45                                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  4:42                                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 18:56                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:13                             ` Rich Felker

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