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From: Alexander Weps <exander77@pm.me>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Broken mktime calculations when crossing DST boundary
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 22:59:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l1V8rm469ESVLMY_Ar0Q-_PAEcLsbFfUYW1-CQcDL2yx_u3afuSt1kX1IYPPeekzIAD2bpvKQ2_NYXWin6HWZ-F9jjiY6W7mdEF00E0VOiQ=@pm.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSM.4.64L.2403252231290.3887@herc.mirbsd.org>

See below.

AW


On Monday, March 25th, 2024 at 23:40, Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> wrote:

> Alexander Weps dixit:
>
> > On Monday, March 25th, 2024 at 13:21, Rich Felker dalias@libc.org wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:52:00AM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
>
> > > > Musl cannot reliably increment date by a day. Incrementing struct tm
> > > > representing 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10 by one day leads to the same
> > > > date.
>
>
> No, that’s correct.
>
> Your chosen timezone has a discontinuity:
>
> $ TZ=Pacific/Apia date -d @1325239199
> Thu Dec 29 23:59:59 -10 2011
> $ TZ=Pacific/Apia date -d @1325239200
> Sat Dec 31 00:00:00 +14 2011
>
> This means any time between this simply does not exist
> in broken-down time.

I am not calculating any time between.

I am using struct tm and mktime to calculated a date with specific offset from initial date.
When I add 1 to tm_sec it means I am calculating a date that is one second after the initial date.

And all of this works in glibc.

Is the argument that glibc being able to do basic struct tm calculations is an incorrect behavior?

>
> > > > Causing a program to loop or stack overflow.
>
>
> That’s because your application violates the constraints
> that bind both, not just the libc, to the spec.

Specify those constraints.

>
> > Output from musl:
> >
> > 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10
> >
> > tm.tm_mday += 1;
> > t = mktime(&tm);
> >
> > 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10 <-- date is the same after incrementing
>
>
> This is… not as incorrect as you state.
>
> The steps here are:
>
> • 2011-12-30 01:00:00 ← input
> • 2011-12-30 01:00:00 ← input after normalisation (!)
> • conversion to time_t (1325206800), application of timezone offset
> • detection of the discontinuity between 2011-12-29 23:59:59 and
> 2011-12-31 00:00:00
> • arbitrary choice of selecting either endpoint
>
> tbh I’d expect this to end up in 1325239199=2011-12-29 23:59:59
> instead of 2011-12-29 01:00:00 though, at least from reading the
> latest Issue 8 proofreading draft. WDYT dalias?
>
> > tm.tm_mday -= 1;
> > t = mktime(&tm);
> >
> > 2011-12-28 01:00:00 -10 <-- going below the original date while decrementing
>
>
> This is entirely correct, again. You’re starting from
> 2011-12-28 01:00:00, you’re getting it back.

Show me a function implementation that produces same time next day under this behavior you assume to be correct.

>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
> --
> “It is inappropriate to require that a time represented as
> seconds since the Epoch precisely represent the number of
> seconds between the referenced time and the Epoch.”
> -- IEEE Std 1003.1b-1993 (POSIX) Section B.2.2.2

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-25 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-24 13:36 Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 16:59 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 17:04 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 17:12   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:00     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:02     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:16       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:24         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:36           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:01             ` Joakim Sindholt
2024-03-24 19:05               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:06             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:22             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 19:57               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 20:50                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 21:43                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 23:51                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25  0:36                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 11:52                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 12:21                       ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 12:55                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:08                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:13                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:13                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:24                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:42                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:48                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:50                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:02                                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:28                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:53                                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:57                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 19:38                                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 19:47                                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:05                                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:12                                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:00                                           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:23                                             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:31                                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 23:19                                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 23:16                                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 13:44                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 22:40                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 22:59                             ` Alexander Weps [this message]
2024-03-25 23:34                               ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 12:45                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-26 21:59                                   ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  0:14                                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  0:38                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  1:35                                       ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  2:45                                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  4:42                                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 18:56                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:13                             ` Rich Felker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-03-22 19:56 Alexander Weps
2024-03-23  6:41 ` Markus Wichmann
     [not found]   ` <528SeRFaPfDw7fA4kqKDlio1U4RB_t9nmUemPcWw9_t1e2hBDpXYFmOqxAC37szgYvAVtmTuXWsmT64SSN3cSQFVdrQqXUAgkdTMPZQ0bg0=@pm.me>
2024-03-23 10:38     ` Markus Wichmann
2024-03-23 11:59       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:00         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:31           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 13:49             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 15:31               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 16:54                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 18:57                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 19:33                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 20:18                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 20:40                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24  0:36                         ` Eric Pruitt
2024-03-24  2:04                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24  3:32                           ` Daniel Gutson
2024-03-24 11:05                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:24                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:01         ` Alexander Weps

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