[NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[urban.m]

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I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I get
two different results from the float placements here:

definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]

defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]

starttext
This is a bit of text
placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

A bit of text
placemysidebar{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

stoptext



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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Where’s the float type "sidebar" defined? AFAIK it’s not a default type. 
And it might interfere with the actual sidebar stuff from 
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkxl/anch-bar.mkxl, 
see also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupsidebar

Hraban

Am 28.04.24 um 19:54 schrieb urban.m@ca.rr.com:
> I swear I used to understand this stuff.  I plead old age.   Why do I 
> get two different results from the float placements here:
> 
> \definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
> \setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]
> 
> \defineframedtext [sidebartext]
> [width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
> 
> \starttext
> This is a bit of text
> \placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
> \startsidebartext
> This is a short sidebar
> \stopsidebartext
> }
> And something to follow.
> 
> A bit of text
> \placemysidebar{}{
> \startsidebartext
> This is a short sidebar
> \stopsidebartext
> }
> And something to follow.
> 
> \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[Wolfgang Schuster]

urban.m@ca.rr.com schrieb am 28.04.2024 um 19:54:
> I swear I used to understand this stuff.  I plead old age.   Why do I 
> get two different results from the float placements here:
>
> \definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
> \setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]

1. You can't pass assignments and keywords to the same argument.

2. The \setupfloat command accepts only assignments as arguments, this 
means "outer" and "none" are ignored.

To set a default location for the float use 
\setupfloat[...][default={outer,none}]

> \defineframedtext [sidebartext]
> [width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
>
> \starttext
> This is a bit of text
> \placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{

1. You're again passing assignments and keywords with a single argument.

2. The \placefloat commands accepts only keywords and ignores all 
assignments, this means your distance settings have no effect.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[urban.m]

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I don't think that 'sidebar' has much to do with it. The part that is
not working as expected is the 'mysidebar', which is not getting the
'outer' location, nor the 'none' captioning that I get with
placefloat.

setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]

defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]

starttext
This is a bit of text
placefloat[newsidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

A bit of text
placemysidebar{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

stoptext



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