[NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[urban.m]

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I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I get
two different results from the float placements here:

definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]

defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=.4textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]

starttext
This is a bit of text
placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

A bit of text
placemysidebar{}{
startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
stopsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

stoptext



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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Where’s the float type "sidebar" defined? AFAIK it’s not a default type. 
And it might interfere with the actual sidebar stuff from 
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkxl/anch-bar.mkxl, 
see also https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupsidebar

Hraban

Am 28.04.24 um 19:54 schrieb urban.m@ca.rr.com:
> I swear I used to understand this stuff.  I plead old age.   Why do I 
> get two different results from the float placements here:
> 
> \definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
> \setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]
> 
> \defineframedtext [sidebartext]
> [width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
> 
> \starttext
> This is a bit of text
> \placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{
> \startsidebartext
> This is a short sidebar
> \stopsidebartext
> }
> And something to follow.
> 
> A bit of text
> \placemysidebar{}{
> \startsidebartext
> This is a short sidebar
> \stopsidebartext
> }
> And something to follow.
> 
> \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat

[Wolfgang Schuster]

urban.m@ca.rr.com schrieb am 28.04.2024 um 19:54:
> I swear I used to understand this stuff.  I plead old age.   Why do I 
> get two different results from the float placements here:
>
> \definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
> \setupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]

1. You can't pass assignments and keywords to the same argument.

2. The \setupfloat command accepts only assignments as arguments, this 
means "outer" and "none" are ignored.

To set a default location for the float use 
\setupfloat[...][default={outer,none}]

> \defineframedtext [sidebartext]
> [width=.4\textwidth,bodyfont=small,corner=round,background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray,align=flushleft]
>
> \starttext
> This is a bit of text
> \placefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=-.25in,rightmargindistance=-.25in,outer,none]{}{

1. You're again passing assignments and keywords with a single argument.

2. The \placefloat commands accepts only keywords and ignores all 
assignments, this means your distance settings have no effect.

Wolfgang

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