From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] web server
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:22:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f1e54b186151c0eecc0003c812124f7@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920904170531w7d6992ebvee1698d46e668f25@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri Apr 17 08:33:12 EDT 2009, uriel99@gmail.com wrote:
> And then you would need some hideous SQL database.
>
> As ken said: we have persistent objects, they are called files; and
> that is what werc uses.
i feel compelled to defend one of my favorite quotes
of all time from misapplication. i'm sure that werc is
well-engineered for its domain, but the mistake i see
is generalizing this into sql sucks.
just as a point of pedantry, in a standard sql database,
there are no objects.
sql does not suck. here's why. sql databases are really
good at keeping relationships between rows (here's the
important part) with no locking visible to the client.
even better in the face of non-static requirements,
more relationships can be added on the fly. it's hard
to do this with flat files, and file-based locking (like
upas does for mbox files) is pretty tricky.
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-17 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-16 16:10 Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:16 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 17:19 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-04-26 21:43 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-16 16:18 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 16:22 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:26 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-16 17:22 ` [9fans] Rails? (was Re: web server) Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 17:41 ` hiro
2009-04-16 17:50 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 18:19 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 18:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-17 19:46 ` Tom Lieber
2009-04-16 17:58 ` Jack Johnson
2009-04-17 11:54 ` [9fans] web server maht
2009-04-17 12:02 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-26 21:59 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-27 11:16 ` Uriel
2009-04-27 17:35 ` maht
2009-04-27 17:53 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-28 18:36 ` maht
2009-04-17 12:31 ` Uriel
2009-04-17 12:45 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-17 12:51 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-17 13:53 ` maht
2009-04-17 14:07 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-18 22:16 ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:31 ` john
2009-04-18 23:00 ` Uriel
2009-04-19 0:59 ` john
2009-04-19 6:57 ` Steve Simon
2009-04-19 11:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 13:10 ` john
2009-04-19 13:38 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 16:02 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-19 17:05 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 22:02 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-19 23:21 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20 0:05 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-20 1:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-20 2:04 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20 16:17 ` maht
2009-04-17 13:22 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-04-18 22:13 ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:27 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 22:56 ` Uriel
2009-04-19 0:45 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-26 22:08 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-26 22:34 ` hiro
2009-04-27 12:03 ` erik quanstrom
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