From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] web server
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:27:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bb88a5d7cb705eb7da8aec98010b755@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d375e920904181513v680abdd0x15991abd87e89843@mail.gmail.com>
> While I think SQL *really* sucks (besides smelling too much of COBOL,
> it pretends to be relational when it is not),
your facts here are incorrect. clearly sql is relational, if you take
codd's meaning of the term. also sql as a language has nothing
to do with cobol. cobol, like fortran, c, java and limbo are
all imperitive languges. sql is interesting (and powerful) because
it is declarative. you don't tell the database how to do something
you tell it what to do.
> My criticism was directed at how they are actually used in pretty much
> every web 'framework' under the sun: with some hideously messy ORM
..
> It is not uncommon to see people modeling with Objects file
> hierarchies that then they go and store into a relational database.
i agree with this. but that doesn't make sql or relational databases
bad, or even bad for this job. just misued.
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-18 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-16 16:10 Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:16 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 17:19 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-04-26 21:43 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-16 16:18 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 16:22 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:26 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-16 17:22 ` [9fans] Rails? (was Re: web server) Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 17:41 ` hiro
2009-04-16 17:50 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 18:19 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 18:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-17 19:46 ` Tom Lieber
2009-04-16 17:58 ` Jack Johnson
2009-04-17 11:54 ` [9fans] web server maht
2009-04-17 12:02 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-26 21:59 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-27 11:16 ` Uriel
2009-04-27 17:35 ` maht
2009-04-27 17:53 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-28 18:36 ` maht
2009-04-17 12:31 ` Uriel
2009-04-17 12:45 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-17 12:51 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-17 13:53 ` maht
2009-04-17 14:07 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-18 22:16 ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:31 ` john
2009-04-18 23:00 ` Uriel
2009-04-19 0:59 ` john
2009-04-19 6:57 ` Steve Simon
2009-04-19 11:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 13:10 ` john
2009-04-19 13:38 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 16:02 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-19 17:05 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 22:02 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-19 23:21 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20 0:05 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-20 1:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-20 2:04 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20 16:17 ` maht
2009-04-17 13:22 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 22:13 ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:27 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-04-18 22:56 ` Uriel
2009-04-19 0:45 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-26 22:08 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-26 22:34 ` hiro
2009-04-27 12:03 ` erik quanstrom
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2000-12-18 12:08 [9fans] Web Server forsyth
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