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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Rails? (was Re: web server)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:51:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5480eb5b48baf626b0c86719df8647a6@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ab217670904161050y4e51be4ey7117a27985f10d93@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu Apr 16 13:52:22 EDT 2009, devon.odell@gmail.com wrote:
> 2009/4/16 hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com>:
> > What is the advantage of rails anyway?
> > I had a quick glance, but still don't really understand it's function.
>
> MVC development model. Allows you to abstract the data from the code
> from the design, but easily access needed parts from other needed
> parts. One of the big things here is the ORM, which basically maps
> information in a database to native language objects.

call me ignorant, but i've always seen such a model (ha) as provable
wrong.  in fact, it seems so obviously wrong that i never thought much
about it.

without some constraints on the data, you can't show that your design
works.  without some idea of what the data could be, how do you pick
appropriate algorithms?

when i worked in the web world, i took a couple of stabs at this and
usually things would be great for a little while.  new business logic would
fit just fine and life was good.

and then two weeks later the director of marketing would be in my office
talking about his new idea.  it was uncanny how it managed to always ask
for something we just couldn't do.

- erik



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-16 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16 16:10 [9fans] web server Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:16 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 17:19   ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-04-26 21:43     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-16 16:18 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 16:22   ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-16 16:26     ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-16 17:22       ` [9fans] Rails? (was Re: web server) Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 17:41         ` hiro
2009-04-16 17:50           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-16 18:19             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-04-16 18:51             ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-04-17 19:46               ` Tom Lieber
2009-04-16 17:58         ` Jack Johnson
2009-04-17 11:54     ` [9fans] web server maht
2009-04-17 12:02       ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-26 21:59       ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-27 11:16         ` Uriel
2009-04-27 17:35         ` maht
2009-04-27 17:53           ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-28 18:36             ` maht
2009-04-17 12:31   ` Uriel
2009-04-17 12:45     ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-17 12:51       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-04-17 13:53       ` maht
2009-04-17 14:07         ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-18 22:16       ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:31         ` john
2009-04-18 23:00           ` Uriel
2009-04-19  0:59             ` john
2009-04-19  6:57               ` Steve Simon
2009-04-19 11:52                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 13:10                   ` john
2009-04-19 13:38                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 16:02                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-19 17:05                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-19 22:02                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-19 23:21                           ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20  0:05                             ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-04-20  1:42                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-04-20  2:04                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-20 16:17                           ` maht
2009-04-17 13:22     ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 22:13       ` Uriel
2009-04-18 22:27         ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-18 22:56           ` Uriel
2009-04-19  0:45             ` erik quanstrom
2009-04-26 22:08         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-04-26 22:34           ` hiro
2009-04-27 12:03           ` erik quanstrom

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