[9fans] How can I use alef?

[9fans] How can I use alef?

[Nolan Hamilton]

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Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Federico G. Benavento]

http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton
<nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.



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Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Nolan Hamilton]

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Thank you very much.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Federico G. Benavento
<benavento@gmail.com>wrote:

> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton
> <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.
>
>
>
> --
> Federico G. Benavento
>
>

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Nolan Hamilton]

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Sorry , how do I install it?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Nolan Hamilton
<nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank you very much.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Federico G. Benavento <
> benavento@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton
>> <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Federico G. Benavento
>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton
<nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry , how do I install it?
>

This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
I started fumbling around something like this:
term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
term% cd sys/src
term% ls
term% cd alef
term% ls
term% mk all

and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure!

ron

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Pietro Gagliardi]

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Last time I checked alef,tgz didn't include the x86 port; shame, I
wanted to try it too.

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[erik quanstrom]

> Last time I checked alef,tgz didn't include the x86 port; shame, I
> wanted to try it too.

did you happen to look in /sys/src/alef/8?

- erik

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Federico G. Benavento]

I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in
/n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and
some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton
> <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry , how do I install it?
>>
>
> This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
> I started fumbling around something like this:
> term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
> term% cd sys/src
> term% ls
> term% cd alef
> term% ls
> term% mk all
>
> and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure!
>
> ron
>
>



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Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Nolan Hamilton]

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this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento
<benavento@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in
> /n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and
> some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton
> > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sorry , how do I install it?
> >>
> >
> > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
> > I started fumbling around something like this:
> > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
> > term% cd sys/src
> > term% ls
> > term% cd alef
> > term% ls
> > term% mk all
> >
> > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure!
> >
> > ron
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Federico G. Benavento
>
>

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

You have to copy the discrib on top of a plan 9 one,
then configure it. In fact, I'm not sure, but there might be a full
distribution on our web page.
There are detailed manual pages (and I think there were more
detailed instructions on this list time ago). See intro and booting, IIRC.

If this is not enough feel free to ask and I'll try to help.


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nolan Hamilton
<nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
> this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B?
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento <benavento@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in
>> /n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and
>> some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton
>> > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Sorry , how do I install it?
>> >>
>> >
>> > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
>> > I started fumbling around something like this:
>> > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
>> > term% cd sys/src
>> > term% ls
>> > term% cd alef
>> > term% ls
>> > term% mk all
>> >
>> > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure!
>> >
>> > ron
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Federico G. Benavento
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Nolan Hamilton]

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Can you really track fedex packages with plan b?

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[lucio]

> This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions.
> I started fumbling around something like this:
> term% tar xvzf alef.tgz
> term% cd sys/src
> term% ls
> term% cd alef
> term% ls
> term% mk all
>
> and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure!

If you want a working version of the Alef compiler, try
/n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz.  It compiles and some tests are
successful.  However, useful libraries such as graphics, are
conspicuous by not having been ported to the architecture of 3rd
Edition Plan 9.  It's on my TODO list to sort this out, but the
priority is low.

If you need specific help, though, I'm willing to assist.  Like Bell
Labs, I think the usefulness of Alef is limited, but I also believe
its historical value is high.

++L

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Sergey Zhilkin]

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2008/11/19 Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com>

> Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it.


People use Limbo.

-- 
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Жилкин Сергей

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Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[john]

nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com wrote:
> this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B?
>

If you're a big enough badass,
http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/planb.txt or
/n/sources/contrib/john/planb.txt may help you.  I wasn't quite badass
enough, so while I got Plan B installed (ish) I never really got
anything done with it.

I'm pretty sure Plan B is deprecated in favor of Octopus these days
anyway.


John Floren

Re: [9fans] How can I use alef?

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

Sure. We are retiring the planb system still in place.
Only some itx in the corridor are still using it.
All our terminals are either Plan 9 native (some running
octopus PCs) or octopus terminals.

But in any case, if anyone still wants to try plan b for any
purpose I'll try to help.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:20 AM,  <john@csplan9.rit.edu> wrote:
> nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com wrote:
>> this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B?
>>
>
> If you're a big enough badass,
> http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/planb.txt or
> /n/sources/contrib/john/planb.txt may help you.  I wasn't quite badass
> enough, so while I got Plan B installed (ish) I never really got
> anything done with it.
>
> I'm pretty sure Plan B is deprecated in favor of Octopus these days
> anyway.
>
>
> John Floren
>
>
>