* [9fans] How can I use alef? @ 2008-11-19 1:25 Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 1:34 ` Federico G. Benavento 2008-11-20 15:47 ` Sergey Zhilkin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 1:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 65 bytes --] Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 65 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 1:25 [9fans] How can I use alef? Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 1:34 ` Federico G. Benavento 2008-11-19 1:44 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-20 15:47 ` Sergey Zhilkin 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-19 1:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it. -- Federico G. Benavento ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 1:34 ` Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-19 1:44 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 1:55 ` Nolan Hamilton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 1:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 373 bytes --] Thank you very much. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Federico G. Benavento <benavento@gmail.com>wrote: > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it. > > > > -- > Federico G. Benavento > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 818 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 1:44 ` Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 1:55 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 3:48 ` ron minnich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 1:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 520 bytes --] Sorry , how do I install it? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com>wrote: > Thank you very much. > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Federico G. Benavento < > benavento@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/extra/alef.tgz >> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Nolan Hamilton >> <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it. >> >> >> >> -- >> Federico G. Benavento >> >> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1239 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 1:55 ` Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 3:48 ` ron minnich 2008-11-19 4:03 ` Pietro Gagliardi ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: ron minnich @ 2008-11-19 3:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry , how do I install it? > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions. I started fumbling around something like this: term% tar xvzf alef.tgz term% cd sys/src term% ls term% cd alef term% ls term% mk all and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure! ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 3:48 ` ron minnich @ 2008-11-19 4:03 ` Pietro Gagliardi 2008-11-19 4:23 ` erik quanstrom 2008-11-19 7:13 ` Federico G. Benavento 2008-11-20 5:24 ` lucio 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-11-19 4:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Last time I checked alef,tgz didn't include the x86 port; shame, I wanted to try it too. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkjkAcACgkQuv7AVNQDs+wtEwCfUaBuz0D6MvAaSUTKNvAw2MCD O+0An027rvPhi8oy9sN0ZSSDB2Ps/XNA =o+kX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 4:03 ` Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-11-19 4:23 ` erik quanstrom 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2008-11-19 4:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Last time I checked alef,tgz didn't include the x86 port; shame, I > wanted to try it too. did you happen to look in /sys/src/alef/8? - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 3:48 ` ron minnich 2008-11-19 4:03 ` Pietro Gagliardi @ 2008-11-19 7:13 ` Federico G. Benavento 2008-11-19 23:10 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-20 5:24 ` lucio 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-19 7:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sorry , how do I install it? >> > > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions. > I started fumbling around something like this: > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz > term% cd sys/src > term% ls > term% cd alef > term% ls > term% mk all > > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure! > > ron > > -- Federico G. Benavento ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 7:13 ` Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-19 23:10 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 23:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros 2008-11-29 1:20 ` john 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 907 bytes --] this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento <benavento@gmail.com>wrote: > I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in > /n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and > some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton > > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry , how do I install it? > >> > > > > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions. > > I started fumbling around something like this: > > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz > > term% cd sys/src > > term% ls > > term% cd alef > > term% ls > > term% mk all > > > > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure! > > > > ron > > > > > > > > -- > Federico G. Benavento > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1413 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 23:10 ` Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-19 23:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros 2008-11-20 0:27 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-29 1:20 ` john 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Francisco J Ballesteros @ 2008-11-19 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs You have to copy the discrib on top of a plan 9 one, then configure it. In fact, I'm not sure, but there might be a full distribution on our web page. There are detailed manual pages (and I think there were more detailed instructions on this list time ago). See intro and booting, IIRC. If this is not enough feel free to ask and I'll try to help. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B? > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento <benavento@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I'd also check lucio's contrib which some stuff in >> /n/sources/contrib/lucio/sys and >> some .tgz which includes binaries in /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz >> >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Nolan Hamilton >> > <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry , how do I install it? >> >> >> > >> > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions. >> > I started fumbling around something like this: >> > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz >> > term% cd sys/src >> > term% ls >> > term% cd alef >> > term% ls >> > term% mk all >> > >> > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure! >> > >> > ron >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Federico G. Benavento >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 23:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros @ 2008-11-20 0:27 ` Nolan Hamilton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Nolan Hamilton @ 2008-11-20 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 50 bytes --] Can you really track fedex packages with plan b? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 99 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 23:10 ` Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 23:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros @ 2008-11-29 1:20 ` john 2008-11-29 1:53 ` Francisco J Ballesteros 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: john @ 2008-11-29 1:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com wrote: > this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B? > If you're a big enough badass, http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/planb.txt or /n/sources/contrib/john/planb.txt may help you. I wasn't quite badass enough, so while I got Plan B installed (ish) I never really got anything done with it. I'm pretty sure Plan B is deprecated in favor of Octopus these days anyway. John Floren ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-29 1:20 ` john @ 2008-11-29 1:53 ` Francisco J Ballesteros 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Francisco J Ballesteros @ 2008-11-29 1:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Sure. We are retiring the planb system still in place. Only some itx in the corridor are still using it. All our terminals are either Plan 9 native (some running octopus PCs) or octopus terminals. But in any case, if anyone still wants to try plan b for any purpose I'll try to help. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:20 AM, <john@csplan9.rit.edu> wrote: > nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com wrote: >> this brings up another question of mine, how can I install Plan B? >> > > If you're a big enough badass, > http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/planb.txt or > /n/sources/contrib/john/planb.txt may help you. I wasn't quite badass > enough, so while I got Plan B installed (ish) I never really got > anything done with it. > > I'm pretty sure Plan B is deprecated in favor of Octopus these days > anyway. > > > John Floren > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 3:48 ` ron minnich 2008-11-19 4:03 ` Pietro Gagliardi 2008-11-19 7:13 ` Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-20 5:24 ` lucio 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2008-11-20 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > This is not the kind of system that comes with instructions. > I started fumbling around something like this: > term% tar xvzf alef.tgz > term% cd sys/src > term% ls > term% cd alef > term% ls > term% mk all > > and you can see it goes wrong. Welcome to Adventure! If you want a working version of the Alef compiler, try /n/sources/contrib/lucio/alef.tgz. It compiles and some tests are successful. However, useful libraries such as graphics, are conspicuous by not having been ported to the architecture of 3rd Edition Plan 9. It's on my TODO list to sort this out, but the priority is low. If you need specific help, though, I'm willing to assist. Like Bell Labs, I think the usefulness of Alef is limited, but I also believe its historical value is high. ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] How can I use alef? 2008-11-19 1:25 [9fans] How can I use alef? Nolan Hamilton 2008-11-19 1:34 ` Federico G. Benavento @ 2008-11-20 15:47 ` Sergey Zhilkin 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sergey Zhilkin @ 2008-11-20 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 173 bytes --] 2008/11/19 Nolan Hamilton <nolan.h.hamilton@gmail.com> > Can people still use Alef?, if so how can I get my hands on it. People use Limbo. -- С Уважением Жилкин Сергей [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 464 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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