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From: Leonardo <leonardohcoelho@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Brazil
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:53:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15988064130.c4eC0a15b.89314@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABJnqBTbtT8hF1g_yFjWq4ZYSgUX+0v+XpRAiqn9ggqOqW8AAg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Saturday, 29 August 2020, at 4:55 PM, Iruatã Souza wrote:
> As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
> 
> So, Leonardo, welcome aboard :)
> 
> Besides translation, what are the Brazilian-specific needs you are trying to address?
> I highly recommend you search the list for other projects similar to yours.
> 
> Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in the journey!

Hi, Iru. Thank you for welcome and congragulations on your work.

Regarding the few regular users, I think this is not only because Plan 9 is considered a research system but also because it looks like a system for fans or enthusiast or even experts (although it's a system where the simplicity of conceptions is the essence).

The guys (and girls!) at 9front do an admirable job of fixing bugs in the kernel, compilers and key libraries and that's priceless: it's a very technical and time-consuming job. We should be grateful for the work they do. And it helps a lot: they do a job that nobody usually wants to do. So, with this support that they give to the community, it is possible to think about developing other things. You're a contributor, I saw your name there. Thank you!

Beside translation I'd like to make the system more user friendly (again: for common people not for experts): and this is the most important thing. In fact, I'd like to make Plan 9 a usable system for personal purposes, so that I can use it and, of course, share what I can do. For example, I feel that for many experts a program like notepad is software for idiots: I don't think so. The guy must think: I am an expert and my world is the command line. Okay. Maybe your sister is not an expert (a hacker and a command-line enthusiast) and maybe the notepad was useful for her. I personally like the notepad and I don't have problem with buttons either: I don't think just idiots like buttons.  By the way, I think that notepad is much more Unix-like than a lot of software celebrated in the Unix universe. It is a graphics program, with a resolute interface, which is only used to read and edit plain text files. What else does he do? You can search and replace strings too. And what else? Nothing more.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-30 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-02  8:52 Iruatã Souza
2020-05-02 16:31 ` [9fans] " Robert Sherwood
2020-08-29 17:25   ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 17:43     ` Wes Kussmaul
2020-08-29 18:36       ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 19:51         ` Wes Kussmaul
2020-08-29 21:10       ` Kurt H Maier
2020-08-29 19:54     ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-29 21:03       ` Lucas Francesco
2020-08-29 22:09         ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-31  2:52         ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 21:19       ` Lucas Francesco
2020-08-29 22:04         ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-30 16:53       ` Leonardo [this message]
2020-08-30 19:40         ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-31  1:29           ` Leonardo
2020-08-31  1:32             ` Kurt H Maier
2020-08-31  2:03               ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 21:30     ` ori
2020-09-01 11:52       ` Ethan Gardener
2020-09-01 12:10         ` hiro
2020-09-01 12:19           ` Ethan Gardener

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