[9fans] plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[9fans] plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[codewarrior85]

Hi All,

Am an operating system enthusiast & in the future intend to take part
in OS development seriously.Also am always interested in works of Bell
Labs.

I have an old laptop P2 266Mhz with 32 MB RAM & 4 GB HD .I want to
just use it for OS testing & getting programming experience under
different OS'es.Already I have a desktop with WinXp / Open Solaris b66
in dual mode.

I would like to use Minix 3 or Plan 9 in my old laptop ( I dont wanna
try Linux ) & preferably next choice will be freeBSD.Is it possible to
install & use Plan 9 with Minix 3 in dual mode ??? or Plan 9 with Free
BSD in dual ?????Any suggestions Plzz??? Or is it worth i run Plan 9
alone in that laptop??? ( Also am unsure  whether Plan 9 will run in
my laptop configuration,But surely i will try )

 Also is there a good scope for programming environment in Plan 9 ?? I
would be programming in C....Are there pre built compilers for C in
Plan 9 that come with jus like Linux ?????

Re: [9fans] plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[Juan M. Mendez]

On 20/12/2007, codewarrior85 <pcrkishan@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Also is there a good scope for programming environment in Plan 9 ?? I
> would be programming in C....Are there pre built compilers for C in
> Plan 9 that come with jus like Linux ?????

There are compilers for C for several architectures. If you are
interested in programming
for Plan9, take a look at:

http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.intro.pdf

Also notes to plan9 kernel source:
http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/who/nemo/9.pdf

Pay a visit to the wiki to see installation instruction and supported hardware.
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/

Good luck !!!!
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[9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[codewarrior85]

On Dec 20, 6:28 am, vej...@gmail.com (Juan M. Mendez) wrote:
> On 20/12/2007, codewarrior85 <pcrkis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Also is there a good scope for programming environment in Plan 9 ?? I
> > would be programming in C....Are there pre built compilers for C in
> > Plan 9 that come with jus like Linux ?????
>
> There are compilers for C for several architectures. If you are
> interested in programming
> for Plan9, take a look at:
>
> http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.intro.pdf
>
> Also notes to plan9 kernel source:http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/who/nemo/9.pdf
>
> Pay a visit to the wiki to see installation instruction and supported hardware.http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/
>
> Good luck !!!!
> --
> Fidonet: 2:345/432.2

Thanx a lot for the info.........

But also i would be really happy if anyone could answer my other
questions....Because i dont want to make a mess of the installation in
a dual mode....So if any one ever tried Plan 9 in a dual mode....Plz
provide me some info on it....whether  can i use it along with any BSD
version or Minix 3.......i.e ....I would love to have Plan 9 with
Minix 3 .....or Plan 9 with BSD.... Any valuable suggestion
plz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: [9fans] plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[sqweek]

On Dec 20, 2007 7:39 PM, codewarrior85 <pcrkishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to use Minix 3 or Plan 9 in my old laptop ( I dont wanna
> try Linux ) & preferably next choice will be freeBSD.Is it possible to
> install & use Plan 9 with Minix 3 in dual mode ???

 yes you can dual boot plan 9 just like any other OS and with a
dedicated testing machine youve got nothing to worry about so what if
you do something wrong in the install just nuke it and do it right
next time

>  Also is there a good scope for programming environment in Plan 9 ?? I
> would be programming in C....Are there pre built compilers for C in
> Plan 9 that come with jus like Linux ?????

 yes a vast majority of the code youll come across in plan 9 is in c
just dont expect to find gcc the plan 9 compilers are much nicer
anyway
 sorry about the messy writing someone filled the punctuation quota
for the thread already so i only have one hyphen left which i need for
my sig
-sqweek

Re: [9fans] plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[roger peppe]

On Dec 20, 2007 3:20 PM, sqweek <sqweek@gmail.com> wrote:
>  sorry about the messy writing someone filled the punctuation quota
> for the thread already so i only have one hyphen left which i need for
> my sig

if your lines were shorter, i might start calling you archie.

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[john]

> On Dec 20, 6:28 am, vej...@gmail.com (Juan M. Mendez) wrote:
>> On 20/12/2007, codewarrior85 <pcrkis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  Also is there a good scope for programming environment in Plan 9 ?? I
>> > would be programming in C....Are there pre built compilers for C in
>> > Plan 9 that come with jus like Linux ?????
>>
>> There are compilers for C for several architectures. If you are
>> interested in programming
>> for Plan9, take a look at:
>>
>> http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.intro.pdf
>>
>> Also notes to plan9 kernel source:http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/who/nemo/9.pdf
>>
>> Pay a visit to the wiki to see installation instruction and supported hardware.http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/
>>
>> Good luck !!!!
>> --
>> Fidonet: 2:345/432.2
> 
> Thanx a lot for the info.........
> 
> But also i would be really happy if anyone could answer my other
> questions....Because i dont want to make a mess of the installation in
> a dual mode....So if any one ever tried Plan 9 in a dual mode....Plz
> provide me some info on it....whether  can i use it along with any BSD
> version or Minix 3.......i.e ....I would love to have Plan 9 with
> Minix 3 .....or Plan 9 with BSD.... Any valuable suggestion
> plz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite common practice, "........." is not actually valid 
punctuation, although "..." is. Nor does !!!!!!!! indicate
competent excitement; instead, it suggests someone who
just escaped AOL. If you actually do some coding, r
emember that it's "if (!foo)", not "if.......(!!!!!!!!foo)".

Okay, grammar nazi mode off. Plan 9 works fine in
multiboot. Just make sure you *don't* install the Plan
9 bootloader and MBR; you can then boot into your other
operating system and set up its bootloader to include
Plan 9. It works well with GRUB and LILO, and while
I've never done it, it would seem that the *BSD loaders
can handle it too.

Have fun

John

[9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[codewarrior85]

Thanx a lot to Juan M. Mendez,roger peppe,sqweek,Brian L. Stuart for
the quickest reply...........Also thanx for the suggestions....Lookin
forward for a great learning experience....

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[Brian L. Stuart]

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From: john@csplan9.rit.edu
>
> >> just escaped AOL. If you actually do some coding, r
> >> emember that it's "if (!foo)", not "if.......(!!!!!!!!foo)".
> > 
> > Yeah, but if you've got an odd number of bangs
> > (add one to what you've put), it'll give the
> > same result.:-)  Great for the obfuscated C
> > contest.
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking of that as I wrote it, which is why
> I threw in all the periods so some smart-alec like you
> wouldn't call me on it ☺ Mmmm, obfuscation.

After I sent the message I did notice the periods.
I was just so amused by the 21 (well 8) gun salute
that the smart-alec in me took over and I didn't
pay attention to them.  Anyway, your point was
well-made.

BLS

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[john]

>> just escaped AOL. If you actually do some coding, r
>> emember that it's "if (!foo)", not "if.......(!!!!!!!!foo)".
> 
> Yeah, but if you've got an odd number of bangs
> (add one to what you've put), it'll give the
> same result.:-)  Great for the obfuscated C
> contest.
> 
> (Ducks for cover...)
> 
> BLS

Yeah, I was thinking of that as I wrote it, which is why
I threw in all the periods so some smart-alec like you
wouldn't call me on it ☺ Mmmm, obfuscation.

John

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[Brian L. Stuart]

> just escaped AOL. If you actually do some coding, r
> emember that it's "if (!foo)", not "if.......(!!!!!!!!foo)".

Yeah, but if you've got an odd number of bangs
(add one to what you've put), it'll give the
same result.:-)  Great for the obfuscated C
contest.

(Ducks for cover...)

BLS

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 newbie...!!!!!

[James.Deagle]

You may have missed my initial repy to you your message. So, just in case,
here it is again:

As of three days ago, my rickety old Dell Latitude is running NetBSD and
Plan9 in dual mode. (Although at heart I'm a FreeBSD guy, I find that the
NetBSD installer also doubles as a nifty partition manager.)




But also i would be really happy if anyone could answer my other
questions....Because i dont want to make a mess of the installation in
a dual mode....So if any one ever tried Plan 9 in a dual mode....Plz
provide me some info on it....whether  can i use it along with any BSD
version or Minix 3.......i.e ....I would love to have Plan 9 with
Minix 3 .....or Plan 9 with BSD.... Any valuable suggestion
plz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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