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From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Future of Plan9
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:58:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200012200058.AAA18825@whitecrow.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:07:52 GMT." <91nt3g$t2f$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

> I like Plan9, I think it has good draft - networking, security,
> namespace (good idea!)...
> But now it needs applications.

It already has some. Or do you mean, "applications that I want to
use"? That's generally harder to fulfil, for any value of "I".

The application card usually means that someone wants to do on
Plan 9 what they already do on their PC. Getting into specifics,
this needs file-format compatibility and/or user-interface
familiarity. What's the point? It's easier and cheaper for the
majority to just use a PC.

On the other hand, if "application" is interpreted as
"functionality which fits in the same niche", without being obsessed
with compatibility, then fair enough. Plan 9 already has some such
applications; where there are gaps, there are opportunities to
reconsider what a user in that niche really needs.

> BTW: Is anybody going to port tcl/tk lib to Plan9? Or anything else
> which
> will make easy to create menus and buttons and others in apps?

This is my point: acme doesn't use menus or buttons, and it doesn't
need tcl or tk to produce applications which use it as the user
interface. But it does affect the style of interface you can have.
acme doesn't have graphics, so you can't do a WYSIWYG text processor,
but you could provide an interface to a TeX system with all sorts of
nifty tools. So the question is not what you think you need, but what
do you *really* need?

steve




  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-20  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-13 10:49 [9fans] " Stephen Adam
2000-12-14  9:49 ` [9fans] " Deztroyer-a1
2000-12-14 12:05   ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-19  9:57   ` Randolph Fritz
2000-12-19 16:07     ` vecera
2000-12-20  0:58       ` Steve Kilbane [this message]
2000-12-20 18:59         ` William Staniewicz
2000-12-21  9:44           ` Alexander C. Deztroyer
2000-12-21 18:27             ` Andrew Zubinski
2000-12-21  9:45         ` vecera
2000-12-22  0:04           ` Steve Kilbane
2000-12-20  9:59       ` Alexander C. Deztroyer
2000-12-20 10:00       ` Patrick R. Wade
2000-12-20  9:59     ` Alexander C. Deztroyer
2000-12-19 10:48 forsyth
2000-12-21 17:46 anothy
2000-12-23 13:21 ` Steve Kilbane
2000-12-24  1:21   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02 17:52     ` Chris Locke
2000-12-21 18:25 forsyth
2000-12-21 18:30 Russ Cox
2000-12-21 18:33 ` matt
2000-12-21 19:20 forsyth
2000-12-22  9:20 ` cLIeNUX user
2000-12-21 19:21 forsyth
2000-12-21 20:48 ` matt
2000-12-22 11:32 forsyth
2001-01-02 17:24 ` cLIeNUX user
2000-12-22 14:00 forsyth
2000-12-22 22:13 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-23 14:40 rob pike
2000-12-24  1:51 Russ Cox
2000-12-24  1:55 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-24  2:03 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02 16:51 ` Dan Cross
2000-12-24  2:11 Russ Cox
2000-12-24  2:18 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-24 15:46   ` matt heath
2000-12-25  5:47 ` Anthony Starks
2001-01-02 17:36 ` Randolph Fritz
2001-01-02 17:36 ` cLIeNUX user
2001-01-02 17:42 ` Anssi Porttikivi
2001-01-03  1:19 William Staniewicz
2001-01-02 22:43 ` matt heath
2001-01-08  9:54 ` Ross Evans
2003-02-10 17:01 [9fans] " Jaytee
2003-02-11  9:30 ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-11 13:06   ` Jim Choate
2003-02-11 13:19     ` Russ Cox
2003-02-11 13:32       ` Jim Choate
2003-02-11 14:11     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-02-12  4:31       ` Jim Choate
2003-02-12  5:12         ` Andrew
2003-02-12 10:34         ` matt
2003-02-12 11:46           ` Digby Tarvin
2003-02-12 17:17         ` Sam
2003-02-12 20:58           ` adrian Damn it !
2003-02-12 21:00             ` Matt Keeler
2003-02-11 14:35     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-11 16:04     ` Dan Cross
2003-02-11 17:05       ` matt
2003-02-12  9:52     ` ozan s yigit
2003-02-12 18:23   ` north_
2003-02-11 15:01 bwc
2003-02-12  0:42 okamoto
2003-02-12 21:10 bwc

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