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From: Anssi Porttikivi <app@my-deja.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Future of Plan9
Date: Tue,  2 Jan 2001 17:42:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92f7d0$2n3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001224021200.5227D199DD@mail.cse.psu.edu>


> i've tried mothra and charon, and
> neither satisfies me.  there's
> got to be a better way than
> the netscape and ie model,

I've been thinking this for a long time too. My best bet would be not
to think about "browsing" remote "media", but just executing Dis code
remotely.

If the Dis code is a remote or pseudo-remote stub that reads remote
HTML trough (a pre-mount required) local /gethttp and pushes it to
local /renderhtml, then fine. You actually opened a URL in a local
browser. If it does something completely different, fine.

What we need is a standard way for for listing and addressing remote
Dis-objects, getting information of them, categorizing them, executing
them in various standard file system mount contexts, asking for various
media and serialized data representations of them as output channels,
and controlling them with standard input channel configurations.

And this system should have a standard mapping of URLs to special
legacy class of Dis-pseudo-objects, i.e. http accessible html files
masked by Dis code stubs, just like Web browsers can access gopher-
objects with URL-references.

Of course we first need the legacy functionality of /gethttp
and /renderhtml with respect for real life production class
implementation of Internet Explorer idiosyncracies, bells and whistles.
We can pretty much forget about other browser compatibility, to make
the implementation a little more manageable.

Start with porting IE, if Microsoft allows you. They might. They have
an interest in Inferno. They were a beta tester. They had negotiations
with Lucent. They could still buy Inferno, which would save the world.
If you can't get IE ported, port Opera. Forget Charon and Mothra, they
are toys.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-02 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-24  2:11 Russ Cox
2000-12-24  2:18 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-24 15:46   ` matt heath
2000-12-25  5:47 ` Anthony Starks
2001-01-02 17:36 ` Randolph Fritz
2001-01-02 17:36 ` cLIeNUX user
2001-01-02 17:42 ` Anssi Porttikivi [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-12 21:10 bwc
2003-02-12  0:42 okamoto
2003-02-11 15:01 bwc
2003-02-10 17:01 [9fans] " Jaytee
2003-02-11  9:30 ` [9fans] " Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-02-11 13:06   ` Jim Choate
2003-02-11 13:19     ` Russ Cox
2003-02-11 13:32       ` Jim Choate
2003-02-11 14:11     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-02-12  4:31       ` Jim Choate
2003-02-12  5:12         ` Andrew
2003-02-12 10:34         ` matt
2003-02-12 11:46           ` Digby Tarvin
2003-02-12 17:17         ` Sam
2003-02-12 20:58           ` adrian Damn it !
2003-02-12 21:00             ` Matt Keeler
2003-02-11 14:35     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-11 16:04     ` Dan Cross
2003-02-11 17:05       ` matt
2003-02-12  9:52     ` ozan s yigit
2003-02-12 18:23   ` north_
2001-01-03  1:19 William Staniewicz
2001-01-02 22:43 ` matt heath
2001-01-08  9:54 ` Ross Evans
2000-12-24  1:51 Russ Cox
2000-12-24  1:55 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-24  2:03 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02 16:51 ` Dan Cross
2000-12-23 14:40 rob pike
2000-12-22 14:00 forsyth
2000-12-22 22:13 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-22 11:32 forsyth
2001-01-02 17:24 ` cLIeNUX user
2000-12-21 19:21 forsyth
2000-12-21 20:48 ` matt
2000-12-21 19:20 forsyth
2000-12-22  9:20 ` cLIeNUX user
2000-12-21 18:30 Russ Cox
2000-12-21 18:33 ` matt
2000-12-21 18:25 forsyth
2000-12-21 17:46 anothy
2000-12-23 13:21 ` Steve Kilbane
2000-12-24  1:21   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-01-02 17:52     ` Chris Locke
2000-12-19 10:48 forsyth
2000-12-13 10:49 [9fans] " Stephen Adam
2000-12-14  9:49 ` [9fans] " Deztroyer-a1
2000-12-14 12:05   ` Boyd Roberts
2000-12-19  9:57   ` Randolph Fritz
2000-12-19 16:07     ` vecera
2000-12-20  0:58       ` Steve Kilbane
2000-12-20 18:59         ` William Staniewicz
2000-12-21  9:44           ` Alexander C. Deztroyer
2000-12-21 18:27             ` Andrew Zubinski
2000-12-21  9:45         ` vecera
2000-12-22  0:04           ` Steve Kilbane
2000-12-20  9:59       ` Alexander C. Deztroyer
2000-12-20 10:00       ` Patrick R. Wade
2000-12-20  9:59     ` Alexander C. Deztroyer

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