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From: presotto@closedmind.org
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Private Namespaces for Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:52:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011121145219.5E53D199E7@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

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server = PentiumII/Xeon 400
client = PentiumPro 199
network = 100 mbs ether

test =
	import {tcp|il}!olive / /tmp
	cd /tmp/386/bin; cat * > /dev/null

the remote fs protocol is 9P2000

I did a few runs to warm up the cache on the
server and 7 runs each for IL and TCP interleaved.
The timings came out just about the same for
Il and TCP, 29.17 and 29.38 secs respectively.
The difference was well within the error bars.


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From: Dan Cross <cross@math.psu.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [9fans] Private Namespaces for Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:47 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <200111202340.SAA18771@augusta.math.psu.edu>

In article <20011120220809.8D66B199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write:
>OK, OK, here's why IL is deprecated:
>
>1.  It doesn't cope well with long networks (it hasn't
>had the chance to be tuned to the same degree as TCP).
>
>2.  It's a headache to maintain.
>
>3.  The new protocol (9P2000) doesn't depend on record
>boundaries being preserved; there is basically no dependence
>on IL in the new system other than the current fileserver
>implementation, which is about to be overhauled (RSN!).

Yes, but isn't il a lot more efficient on the wire than TCP,
particularly over mostly reliable local area networks?  TCP has a lot
of baggage to deal with high loss, high latency, networks with moderate
bandwidth at the expense of higher bandwidth, lower latency, low loss
networks; in other words, it doesn't cope well with short networks.  :-)

	- Dan C.

             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-21 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-21 14:52 presotto [this message]
2001-11-21 20:12 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-21 20:48 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-21 22:50   ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-25 15:23   ` david presotto
2001-11-25  4:19     ` George Michaelson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-27  8:49 nigel
2001-11-27  7:24 nigel
2001-11-27  6:43 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-27  3:09 Russ Cox
2001-11-27  8:13 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-27  3:03 geoff
2001-11-26 18:27 erik quanstrom
2001-11-26  5:31 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-26 10:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-26 10:48   ` Matt
2001-11-26 14:29     ` Ronald G Minnich
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111260728070.16611-100000@snaresland.acl.la nl.gov>
2001-11-27  0:13       ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-27  1:37         ` Ronald G Minnich
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111261834400.19833-100000@snaresland.acl.la nl.gov>
2001-11-27  2:17           ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-27  2:28             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-27  2:46               ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-27 11:53             ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-11-27  2:22         ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-11-27  2:54           ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-27  3:06             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-26 14:18 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-26 18:26   ` Dan Cross
2001-11-22  0:42 rob pike
2001-11-22  0:36 rob pike
2001-11-21 23:02 rob pike
2001-11-21 23:26 ` Matt
2001-11-21 20:08 erik quanstrom
2001-11-21 16:49 forsyth
2001-11-21  3:02 Eric Grosse
2001-11-21  1:29 okamoto
2001-11-21  3:46 ` Ronald G Minnich
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111202037460.14857-100000@snaresland.acl.la nl.gov>
2001-11-21 17:51   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-21 22:44     ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-21  0:03 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 23:48 forsyth
2001-11-20 23:40 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 23:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-20 23:54 ` Matthew Hannigan
2001-11-21 17:24 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-22  9:56 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-20 22:54 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 23:17 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 23:49   ` Matthew Hannigan
2001-11-20 23:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-20 22:40 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 22:47 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 23:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-20 22:20 presotto
2001-11-20 22:08 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 23:40 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-21 15:05 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-20 22:05 erik quanstrom
2001-11-20 21:24 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 21:49 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 20:54 presotto
2001-11-20 20:49 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-20 20:57 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-21  5:59   ` Taj Khattra
2001-11-20 10:22 forsyth
2001-11-19 21:46 [9fans] vmware Russ Cox
2001-11-19 23:59 ` [9fans] Private Namespaces for Linux Matt
2001-11-20  5:26   ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 17:28   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-20 20:46     ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 21:08       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-20 21:48         ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 22:28           ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-11-20 23:14             ` Alexander Viro

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