* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-21 15:35 rob pike, esq.
2002-09-21 16:33 ` Jack Johnson
2002-09-22 22:22 ` Dan Cross
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From: rob pike, esq. @ 2002-09-21 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Slashdot isn't what it used to be.
It never was.
-rob
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 15:35 [9fans] 9 in the news rob pike, esq.
@ 2002-09-21 16:33 ` Jack Johnson
2002-09-21 17:17 ` matt
2002-09-22 22:22 ` Dan Cross
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From: Jack Johnson @ 2002-09-21 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
rob pike, esq. wrote:
>>Slashdot isn't what it used to be.
>
> It never was.
True, but I think when it was less popular I think it was easier to
start a semi-rational discussion. Now, with 200+ comments on every
story, you really have to want to look if you want to find an
interesting idea in the flotsam.
Conversely, I think Usenet is returning to its roots because of it's
lack of popularity in the face of the Web, and Google's archives make it
that much more useful.
-Jack
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 16:33 ` Jack Johnson
@ 2002-09-21 17:17 ` matt
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From: matt @ 2002-09-21 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
The regulation one plan9 article a year and my account is locked out.
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 15:35 [9fans] 9 in the news rob pike, esq.
2002-09-21 16:33 ` Jack Johnson
@ 2002-09-22 22:22 ` Dan Cross
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From: Dan Cross @ 2002-09-22 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Amen.
- Dan C.
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 2:01 matt
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
@ 2002-10-01 12:45 ` matt
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From: matt @ 2002-10-01 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
er, looks like ntl's relay has decided to play a game
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-23 14:13 ` Peter Downs
@ 2002-09-23 16:00 ` Jack Johnson
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From: Jack Johnson @ 2002-09-23 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Peter Downs wrote:
> A good rule of thumb is that one out of every ten people is not a complete moron.
Just for the record, I'm the local 9fans moron.
You all can now go about your business relieved of self-doubt.
-Jack
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-23 14:38 Anssi Porttikivi
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From: Anssi Porttikivi @ 2002-09-23 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I think reading Slashdot responses at quality thresold 4/5, like I do, is fairly nice. From that filtering perspective I see the quality of comments and relevance of issues as better than most of computer journalism. Of course, your own inner circle of gurus always knows better...
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 20:28 Geoff Collyer
@ 2002-09-23 14:13 ` Peter Downs
2002-09-23 16:00 ` Jack Johnson
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From: Peter Downs @ 2002-09-23 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
A good rule of thumb is that one out of every ten people is not a complete moron.
One person may be able to keep a discussion under control with 9 morons
in the room, but could 10 control a conversation with 90 morons hanging around?
You can see it's a non-linear relationship.
How many users are on slashdot now? You'll see the quality degrade anywhere there
is a huge userbase.
Even bad PR can be good, though. And anyone with half a mind to be able to find
the plan9 web site, should find it's content informative.
-peter
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2002-09-21 16:01 ` Ronald G Minnich
@ 2002-09-21 21:55 ` Steve Kilbane
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From: Steve Kilbane @ 2002-09-21 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
I'm surprised anybody bothers to read them in the first place.
Life's too short.
steve
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-21 20:28 Geoff Collyer
2002-09-23 14:13 ` Peter Downs
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From: Geoff Collyer @ 2002-09-21 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
netnews becoming useful again? surely this is a sign of the end
times.
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
2002-09-21 15:21 ` Arnaud SAHUGUET
2002-09-21 15:57 ` Jack Johnson
@ 2002-09-21 16:01 ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-09-21 21:55 ` Steve Kilbane
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From: Ronald G Minnich @ 2002-09-21 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Lucio De Re wrote:
> Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
It's slashdot. What else do you need to know?
ron
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
2002-09-21 15:21 ` Arnaud SAHUGUET
@ 2002-09-21 15:57 ` Jack Johnson
2002-09-21 16:01 ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-09-21 21:55 ` Steve Kilbane
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From: Jack Johnson @ 2002-09-21 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Lucio De Re wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:01:09AM +0100, matt wrote:
>>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/20/1532208&mode=nested&tid=156
>>
> Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
I'm less informed than I should be, and I felt the same way.
I was unimpressed by the LinuxWorld article in general, but yes,
Slashdot isn't what it used to be.
-Jack
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
@ 2002-09-21 15:21 ` Arnaud SAHUGUET
2002-09-21 15:57 ` Jack Johnson
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Arnaud SAHUGUET @ 2002-09-21 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
The original article from LinuxWorld is a real mess.
They mix together so many different things and the title is really
misleading.
The /. comments are the usual stuff.
A lot of noise especially when the thread gets "hijacked" on a totally
different track.
But it is good PR for Plan9, putting it back on the radar screen of some
people.
This is called mindshare.
regards,
Arnaud
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lucio De Re" <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:01:09AM +0100, matt wrote:
> >
> > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/20/1532208&mode=nested&tid=156
> >
> Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
>
> ++L
>
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-21 14:52 Russ Cox
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From: Russ Cox @ 2002-09-21 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
It's hard to be surprised at the uninformedness of
a Slashdot discussion. Still, it was impressive to
me that no one understood what single sign-on
really meant. Everyone had the Microsoft version
stuck in their heads.
Russ
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-21 14:39 anothy
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From: anothy @ 2002-09-21 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
// Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
well, given that it's slashdot, i'm impressed by how well-reasoned
and rational the whole thing's been! and the article itself isn't
exactly stellar writing: AT&T Bell Labs? c'mon, guys... that was
an okay mistake to make in '97. and the article vaugely says the
ideas in plan 9 will defeat passport, but doesn't really say
anything about how. oh, Sun or Linux will pick 'em up and do
something great with them. because he says so.
okay.
ア
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* Re: [9fans] 9 in the news
2002-09-21 2:01 matt
@ 2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
2002-09-21 15:21 ` Arnaud SAHUGUET
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2002-10-01 12:45 ` matt
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From: Lucio De Re @ 2002-09-21 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:01:09AM +0100, matt wrote:
>
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/20/1532208&mode=nested&tid=156
>
Is it just me, or were the responses surprisingly uninformed?
++L
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* [9fans] 9 in the news
@ 2002-09-21 2:01 matt
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
2002-10-01 12:45 ` matt
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: matt @ 2002-09-21 2:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
How Apache & Plan 9 will defeat Microsoft's Passport
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0918.plan9.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/20/1532208&mode=nested&tid=156
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