[9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[Joel Salomon]

There was a short one-liner describing plan9 posted some time ago that I
can no longer find - something about plan9 being all of Unix except the
working parts, or something like this. If someone recognizes this, I'd
like to send an entry re. Plan 9 to the Jargon File
(http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html)

--Joel

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[andrey mirtchovski]

is that what you're looking for?

term% grep layman /sys/games/lib/fortunes
Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms? It does everything Unix does only less reliably - Ken
term%

andrey

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Joel Salomon wrote:

> There was a short one-liner describing plan9 posted some time ago that I
> can no longer find - something about plan9 being all of Unix except the
> working parts, or something like this. If someone recognizes this, I'd
> like to send an entry re. Plan 9 to the Jargon File
> (http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html)
>
> --Joel
>
>

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[Skip Tavakkolian]

> Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms? It does everything Unix does only less reliably - Ken

Maybe the answer should be:

It does everything that UNIX does less reliably

then everyone can read into it what they want.

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[Russ Cox]

i think this is what you're talking about,
but it hardly seems a fitting entry.  also it's
not true anymore, a fact i have recently
discovered by crashing unix boxes with
reasonable nfs traffic.  good luck crashing
plan 9 with 9p traffic.


Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms?
It does everything Unix does only less reliably.

-- Ken Thompson

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[Jack Johnson]

Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry.  also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic.  good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.

That's hardly fair.

Which crashes first, Plan 9 with heavy NFS traffic or Unix with heavy 9p
traffic?

;)

-J

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[Roman V. Shaposhnick]

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry.  also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic.  good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.

  It's not that hard. I've posted a recipe once here. You just need
  a buggy 9p server that stops in the middle of transaction and never
  sends anything (including R message client is waiting for) back.
  So, if you try to kill this hanging  app kernel just runs out
  of tags and hangs. Nothing helps but reboot. ASS/AHS I guess.

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file

[C H Forsyth]

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i'm fairly sure you'll find that's now harder to do that way.
there have been changes.

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From: "Roman V. Shaposhnick" <vugluskr@unicorn.math.spbu.ru>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:50:58 +0300
Message-ID: <20030207095058.A10318@unicorn.math.spbu.ru>

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry.  also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic.  good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.

  It's not that hard. I've posted a recipe once here. You just need
  a buggy 9p server that stops in the middle of transaction and never
  sends anything (including R message client is waiting for) back.
  So, if you try to kill this hanging  app kernel just runs out
  of tags and hangs. Nothing helps but reboot. ASS/AHS I guess.

Thanks,
Roman.