* [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
@ 2003-02-05 19:05 Joel Salomon
2003-02-05 19:11 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-05 19:13 ` Russ Cox
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From: Joel Salomon @ 2003-02-05 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
There was a short one-liner describing plan9 posted some time ago that I
can no longer find - something about plan9 being all of Unix except the
working parts, or something like this. If someone recognizes this, I'd
like to send an entry re. Plan 9 to the Jargon File
(http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html)
--Joel
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
2003-02-05 19:05 [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file Joel Salomon
@ 2003-02-05 19:11 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-05 19:34 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-02-05 19:13 ` Russ Cox
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2003-02-05 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
is that what you're looking for?
term% grep layman /sys/games/lib/fortunes
Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms? It does everything Unix does only less reliably - Ken
term%
andrey
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Joel Salomon wrote:
> There was a short one-liner describing plan9 posted some time ago that I
> can no longer find - something about plan9 being all of Unix except the
> working parts, or something like this. If someone recognizes this, I'd
> like to send an entry re. Plan 9 to the Jargon File
> (http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html)
>
> --Joel
>
>
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
2003-02-05 19:05 [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file Joel Salomon
2003-02-05 19:11 ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2003-02-05 19:13 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-05 19:31 ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-07 6:50 ` Roman V. Shaposhnick
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From: Russ Cox @ 2003-02-05 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
i think this is what you're talking about,
but it hardly seems a fitting entry. also it's
not true anymore, a fact i have recently
discovered by crashing unix boxes with
reasonable nfs traffic. good luck crashing
plan 9 with 9p traffic.
Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms?
It does everything Unix does only less reliably.
-- Ken Thompson
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
2003-02-05 19:13 ` Russ Cox
@ 2003-02-05 19:31 ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-07 6:50 ` Roman V. Shaposhnick
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jack Johnson @ 2003-02-05 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry. also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic. good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.
That's hardly fair.
Which crashes first, Plan 9 with heavy NFS traffic or Unix with heavy 9p
traffic?
;)
-J
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
2003-02-05 19:11 ` andrey mirtchovski
@ 2003-02-05 19:34 ` Skip Tavakkolian
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From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2003-02-05 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Can you sum up plan 9 in layman's terms? It does everything Unix does only less reliably - Ken
Maybe the answer should be:
It does everything that UNIX does less reliably
then everyone can read into it what they want.
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
2003-02-05 19:13 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-05 19:31 ` Jack Johnson
@ 2003-02-07 6:50 ` Roman V. Shaposhnick
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Roman V. Shaposhnick @ 2003-02-07 6:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry. also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic. good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.
It's not that hard. I've posted a recipe once here. You just need
a buggy 9p server that stops in the middle of transaction and never
sends anything (including R message client is waiting for) back.
So, if you try to kill this hanging app kernel just runs out
of tags and hangs. Nothing helps but reboot. ASS/AHS I guess.
Thanks,
Roman.
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* Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
@ 2003-02-07 12:20 C H Forsyth
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From: C H Forsyth @ 2003-02-07 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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i'm fairly sure you'll find that's now harder to do that way.
there have been changes.
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From: "Roman V. Shaposhnick" <vugluskr@unicorn.math.spbu.ru>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Summary of Plan9 for jargon file
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:50:58 +0300
Message-ID: <20030207095058.A10318@unicorn.math.spbu.ru>
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Russ Cox wrote:
> i think this is what you're talking about,
> but it hardly seems a fitting entry. also it's
> not true anymore, a fact i have recently
> discovered by crashing unix boxes with
> reasonable nfs traffic. good luck crashing
> plan 9 with 9p traffic.
It's not that hard. I've posted a recipe once here. You just need
a buggy 9p server that stops in the middle of transaction and never
sends anything (including R message client is waiting for) back.
So, if you try to kill this hanging app kernel just runs out
of tags and hangs. Nothing helps but reboot. ASS/AHS I guess.
Thanks,
Roman.
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