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From: Dan Cross <cross@math.psu.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:22:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200306181622.h5IGMt506956@augusta.math.psu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:48:24 MDT." <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306180842380.31535-100000@fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>

> > If the BSD Unix crowd put as much effort into writing their own
> > compilers as they put into the sort of posturing we saw yesterday,
> > they'd have had their own compilers years ago.  Why is it strictly
> > necessary to use the Plan 9 compilers?  Why not just write your own?
> > It shouldn't take more than a couple months of work, really.
>
> They want to use the Plan 9 compilers because they're better, of course :)

Heh.  :-)

> That settled, I would definitely like to see a more widespread adoption of
> the Plan 9 compilers -- if nothing else, simply because it'll make me feel
> like this operating system is going somewhere and not hitting a dead end
> (not that I'm implying this).

I can understand that, but I'd rather see a more widespread adoption
of the spirit of Plan 9 than any part of its code.  That is, more function
with less software.

> Wouldn't you like to see those pesky 20% lack of speed (in the binary, not
> in compilation) disappear? Presumably that's what the BSD people mean by
> 'improvement'.

It depends.  Not if it means a 100% slowdown in the speed of the
compiler, or an order of magnitude increase in the code size.  The BSD
people don't have a good track record in this area; I found it ironic
that Theo called GNU software bloatware.

	- Dan C.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-18 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-18  9:34 Markus Friedl
2003-06-18 14:45 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-18 14:48   ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-06-18 16:21     ` northern snowfall
2003-06-18 15:41       ` Markus Friedl
2003-06-18 16:32         ` northern snowfall
2003-06-18 17:12         ` Charles Forsyth
2003-06-18 16:22     ` Dan Cross [this message]
2003-06-18 17:09     ` Charles Forsyth
2003-06-20  7:52   ` Markus Friedl
2003-06-18 18:40 ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-18 20:25   ` ron minnich
2003-06-18 21:01     ` rob pike, esq.
2003-06-18 21:04     ` Jack Johnson
2003-06-18 21:02       ` boyd, rounin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-09  3:33 A. Baker
2003-07-11  1:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-20 14:39 Richard C Bilson
2003-06-20  9:30 Andrew Simmons
2003-06-19 19:59 Scott Schwartz
2003-06-19 20:08 ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 19:24 ot
2003-06-19 19:50 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-19 19:56   ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 18:13 ot
2003-06-19 18:19 ` David Presotto
2003-06-20  8:39   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-06-19 18:50 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-19 18:55   ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19  9:34 Keith Nash
2003-06-19 13:51 ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 13:54   ` David Presotto
2003-06-19 14:09     ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 16:44   ` Erik Terpstra
2003-06-19 17:13     ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 17:35     ` Dan Cross
2003-06-19 17:52       ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 21:33         ` Jack Johnson
2003-06-20 14:05           ` Jason Gurtz
2003-06-20 14:08             ` Lucio De Re
2003-06-20 14:30               ` Jason Gurtz
2003-06-19 21:34         ` Jack Johnson
2003-06-19 23:19           ` Dan Cross
2003-06-20  1:52             ` George Michaelson
2003-06-20  2:32               ` Geoff Collyer
2003-06-20  2:40                 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-06-20  6:55                   ` Dan Cross
2003-06-20  2:56                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-06-20  2:43               ` Stephen Wynne
2003-06-20  6:54               ` Dan Cross
2003-06-20  7:05                 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-23  8:56                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-06-23 15:22                 ` rog
2003-06-20  8:20           ` John Murdie
2003-06-20 15:31             ` splite
2003-06-20 17:24               ` John Murdie
2003-06-19 17:51     ` David Presotto
2003-06-19 18:15       ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-19 20:14         ` ron minnich
2003-06-23  8:58           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-06-20  5:01       ` Lucio De Re
     [not found] <42999790ecb672f64d9fe046cb284a9d@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2003-06-17 21:56 ` Donald Brownlee
2003-06-17 18:45 presotto
2003-06-17 18:18 David Presotto
2003-06-17 18:01 David Presotto
2003-06-18  2:55 ` Andrey S. Kukhar
     [not found] <cf335ed380f1abb103f54acc1a307830@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2003-06-17 17:33 ` Theo de Raadt
2003-06-17 17:09 David Presotto
2003-06-17 16:52 Theo de Raadt
2003-06-17 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-17 18:26   ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-18  8:58 ` ozan s yigit
2003-06-18 14:52   ` Dan Cross
2003-07-03  9:41 ` Wesley Parish
2003-07-03 17:29   ` D. Brownlee
2003-06-17 16:38 Russ Cox, rsc
2003-06-17 17:13 ` David Presotto
2003-06-17 17:50 ` Damian Gerow
2003-06-17 17:57   ` Russ Cox, rsc
2003-06-17 18:07     ` Damian Gerow
2003-06-17 16:04 Theo de Raadt
2003-06-17 17:02 ` C H Forsyth
2003-06-17 18:15   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-06-17 18:38 ` Tom Glinos
2003-06-17 17:46   ` Russ Cox, rsc
2003-06-17 21:27     ` Tom Glinos
2003-06-17 18:13   ` Donald Brownlee
2003-06-17 20:39 ` northern snowfall
2003-06-17 21:19   ` northern snowfall
2003-06-18 10:11 ` matt
2003-06-17 10:28 Theo de Raadt
2003-06-17 20:49 ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-17 21:01   ` David Presotto
2003-06-17 21:26     ` Jack Johnson
2003-06-17 21:28     ` Dan Cross
2003-06-20 12:31       ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-06-20 12:57         ` matt
2003-06-23  8:56         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-06-23  9:02         ` Anthony Mandic
2003-06-23 14:45           ` Jack Johnson

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