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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] USB developments
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:20:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040115172027.J25947@cackle.proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <beb087f6b5b32892960b8b9e9c51d60b@plan9.escet.urjc.es>; from Fco.J.Ballesteros on Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:56:36PM +0100

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote:
>
> With enough effort put on that, I'd probably agree with you. However,
> I think that would require a lot of effort to learn how to split them clearly
> (consider that you'd want your kernel to be operational despite user programs
> problems).
>
OK, I'm really only interested in viability.  As long as we agree
that it is possible, I assume no one will implement USB management
that will preclude moving in the direction I advocate.
Difficult does not frighten me, short-sighted implementations do.

> Given that, I'd vote for duplication of code. With some effort, the code
> can be borrowed "as is", without keeping a different version.

I think it will need changing, but that the changes can be back
ported to the kernel.  As I mentioned, I think the separation
between userland and kernel drivers is quite blurred by them
appearing as filesystems in both cases.  There are underlying
issues, but I think the similarity is more significant.

My present plan is to strip #U to bare essentials, removing any
knowledge it may have of specific USB features and instead allowing
it to report changes to the configuration as they occur.  I'll use
usbd as the foundation for a daemon that does no more than monitor
these #U reports and allows me to add configuration and initialisation
as I grasp the details better.

++L


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-15 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-15  6:16 Lucio De Re
2004-01-15  8:23 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15  8:42   ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15  9:13     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15  9:17       ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 10:05       ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 10:23         ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 13:02         ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 14:05           ` Richard Miller
2004-01-15 14:44             ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 14:56               ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 15:20                 ` Lucio De Re [this message]
2004-01-15 15:41                   ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 14:53             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 21:25             ` Dan Cross
2004-01-15 10:30       ` usbd - revision (Was: [9fans] USB developments) Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 10:46         ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 11:47           ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 12:11             ` Charles Forsyth
2004-01-15 12:43               ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 18:01                 ` C H Forsyth
2004-01-15 19:10                   ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 20:24                     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-01-15 21:00                       ` Micah Stetson
2004-01-16  6:18                       ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-16  7:34                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-16  7:38                     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-16  7:59                       ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-16 10:23                       ` Bruce Ellis
2004-01-16 10:32                         ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-16 10:39                           ` boyd, rounin
2004-01-16 10:45                           ` Richard Miller
2004-01-16 11:41                             ` Bruce Ellis
2004-01-16 11:50                               ` rog
2004-01-15  9:07   ` [9fans] USB developments Charles Forsyth
2004-01-15  9:18     ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-15 10:39     ` Lucio De Re
2004-01-15 10:48       ` Richard Miller
2004-01-15  9:10 ` Richard Miller
2004-01-15  9:14   ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2004-01-16  9:59 ` boyd, rounin

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