Re: [9fans] Mars Needs Women

[Corey <corey@bitworthy.net>]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 21:20:35 Rahul Murmuria wrote:
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> I would like to point out that the Glendix project has been doing
> something quite the opposite of what Corey wants,
>

... that's not a strictly accurate statement.

It infers that "what Corey wants" is to bring GNU and Linux into
Plan 9.

Which isn't true.

The goal of the "Plan X" thought experiment was to query 9fans for
others who might also be interested in collaboration and discussion
regarding new and novel uses for Plan 9 os technologies.

I think there's lot's of potential out there for Plan 9 in "Consumer Space"...
I honestly thought that I might see more folks interested in imagining
what glenda looks like outside of the research and data center[1].

9fans does not have time for such nonsense.


[1] ... and it's funny how, should glenda ever step outside the building,
apparently everyone's paranoid that in all instances, she's going to suddenly
become some sort of outlandish *nix/GNU freak-show the moment she steps
out the door


> Imagine running the Linux kernel and all of regular GNU, with all the
> Plan 9's sweetness patched in.
>

But combining GNU and Linux with Plan 9 is not at all what I'm interested in.


> Eventually, it would make the Plan 9's tools cooler by competition and
> have them used ahead of the GNU alternatives... reduce bloat over time
> by eliminating existing bloated projects (gcc?) which would eventually
> be deemed out-of-fashion...
>

Personally, I think carefully identifying, then porting/forking just a few,
_select_ pieces of software from the *nix space, then maintained natively
in an alternative Plan 9 based distribution, is a more interesting and direct
route.

Unfortunately - that means noisy discussion and collaboration amongst
people from a variety perspectives and skillsets/experience. Which is
anathema to 9fans lone-ranger aesthetics.


> but seriously, that's sooo awkward... same as trying to have Plan 9 do
> stuff people from the Muggle world want...
>

This again shows the strange misconception I keep seeing repeated here
on this list:

The notion that the world is somehow bridled with people who hope to
somehow... transmogrify Plan 9 into Linux... and that an arena of
Plan9/Linux hybrids is the only other imaginable place that Plan 9 could
possibly end up.

It's a weird phenomenon - but it appears to be an ingrained reflex of the
9fans ethos.


Cheers