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From: Andrew Simmons <andrew@mbmnz.co.nz>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] samuel
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:45:40 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020311134540.00998010@pop3.clear.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020310235950.C851319991@mail.cse.psu.edu>

>But, if you insist on building systems which require an IQ of more
>than 100 to operate, then by definition you are excluding more
>than 1/2 of the world's population from using the system.
>
Well, I don't see how that could be true by definition, but surely the
point is that the discussion concerns an environment for programmers,
rather than the world's population in general, and one would hope that the
average programmer has an IQ greater than 100. Programmers may be happy to
put in the time to learn a system that is difficult to use at first glance,
in exchange for increased productivity down the track. Having said that,
I'm with you on the usefulness of syntax-aware tools. The problem is that
they are often done badly (Visual C++), or appallingly badly (Visual
Basic). I do however like the Codewarrior IDE on the Mac, which provides a
drop down list of functions. Others here would hate it. Live and let live.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-11  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 189+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-10 23:59 Alex Danilo
2002-03-11  0:07 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11  7:44   ` Steve Kilbane
2002-03-11  0:45 ` Andrew Simmons [this message]
2002-03-11 10:10   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-10 13:13 [9fans] E attribute in libsec/port/x509.c Claude BONFANTI
2003-03-11 17:41 ` Eric Grosse
2003-03-12  9:33   ` [9fans] hardware support for the fs kernel Conor Williams
2003-03-12  9:52     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-03-12 10:01     ` Lucio De Re
2003-03-12 10:12       ` Geoff Collyer
2003-03-12 10:28         ` Lucio De Re
2003-03-12 17:15           ` Russ Cox
2003-03-13  7:59             ` Lucio De Re
2003-03-13 15:45               ` Russ Cox
2003-03-14  5:06                 ` Lucio De Re
2003-03-12 10:52         ` James A. Robinson
2003-03-12 11:11           ` Lucio De Re
2003-03-12 22:59             ` Geoff Collyer
2003-03-12 23:20               ` Jack Johnson
2002-09-21  2:01 [9fans] 9 in the news matt
2002-09-21 11:16 ` Lucio De Re
2002-09-21 15:21   ` Arnaud SAHUGUET
2002-09-21 15:57   ` Jack Johnson
2002-09-21 16:01   ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-09-21 21:55   ` Steve Kilbane
2002-10-01 12:45 ` matt
2002-10-03  1:47 ` [9fans] did a replica/pull, now "mk 'CONF='pc" fails? Eric Dorman
2002-03-27 20:12 [9fans] sam and ssh Geoff Collyer
2002-03-27 20:18 ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-27 20:31   ` Scott Schwartz
     [not found] <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
2001-04-23  5:53 ` [9fans] PGP Lucio De Re
2001-04-23  6:01   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-04-23 16:13     ` Dan Cross
2002-03-27 18:14 ` [9fans] sam and ssh Lucio De Re
2002-03-27 19:08   ` Scott Schwartz
2002-03-28  1:28   ` Micah Stetson
2002-03-27 20:15     ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-27 20:22       ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-27 20:36         ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-27 20:41           ` Lucio De Re
2002-04-08 12:47           ` peter huang
2002-03-18 10:39 [9fans] samuel Joel Salomon
2002-03-18 14:53 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-04-08 12:53   ` Joel Salomon
2002-03-13 14:31 bwc
2002-03-11 15:54 rob pike
2002-03-11 17:59 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-11 15:22 Russ Cox
2002-03-11 17:49 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-11  8:50 Bengt Kleberg
2002-03-11  4:50 Geoff Collyer
2002-03-11  1:08 Russ Cox
2002-03-11 10:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-11 17:16 ` ozan s. yigit
2002-03-11  0:15 Geoff Collyer
2002-03-11  0:04 Geoff Collyer
2002-03-11 10:09 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-13 14:13   ` Laura Creighton
2002-03-13 14:23     ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-13 18:08       ` Laura Creighton
2002-03-14  5:53         ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-14  9:56     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-03-10 22:51 forsyth
2002-03-11  0:21 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-03-10 22:20 forsyth
2002-03-10 21:42 presotto
2002-03-10 20:32 rob pike
2002-03-10 21:13 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-03-10 21:25   ` William Josephson
2002-03-11 10:09   ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-03-11 18:06   ` ozan s. yigit
2002-03-10  3:38 rob pike
2002-03-10 20:17 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-03-10 22:15   ` Steve Kilbane
2002-03-10  3:27 geoff
2002-03-10 19:42 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-03-10  2:46 Alex Danilo
2002-02-27 23:05 seanq
2002-02-27 23:15 ` William Josephson
2002-02-28  4:49 ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-28 12:53   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-11 10:04   ` Escape Clause
2002-03-19 13:25     ` Harri J Haataja
2002-03-20 14:00       ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-21 11:02         ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-02-28 12:51 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 15:24 forsyth
2002-02-27 15:23 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 14:30 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 14:26 rob pike
2002-02-27 14:23 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 14:21 rob pike
2002-02-28 13:19 ` Jim Kelleman
2002-02-27 14:16 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 13:17 Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 23:04 ` skipt
2001-11-07 21:34 [9fans] Rant (was Re: Plan9 and Ada95?) anothy
2001-11-08  5:30 ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-08  5:43   ` George Michaelson
2001-11-08  7:07     ` Jim Choate
2001-11-08  7:40     ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-08 10:40       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-08 20:15       ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-11-08  5:59   ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-11-08  7:16 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-29  4:44 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-10-09 13:18 Plan 9 annoyances (was: Re: [9fans] mv vs cp) bwc
2001-10-10  8:57 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-10 10:02   ` Browsers (was: Re: Plan 9 annoyances (was: Re: [9fans] mv vs cp)) Lucio De Re
2001-10-10 18:38     ` Steve Kilbane
2001-10-11  8:31       ` John Murdie
2001-10-11 17:26         ` Steve Kilbane
2001-10-12  6:31         ` [9fans] Re: Browsers Boyd Roberts
2001-10-07 16:23 [9fans] mv vs cp jmk
2001-10-08  4:28 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  4:49   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:10     ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  6:34       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:49         ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  7:00           ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  7:13             ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  7:44               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  7:28             ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-08  6:54       ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  7:10         ` George Michaelson
2001-10-08  8:28           ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  9:51     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-08 10:30       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-09  9:03         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09  9:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-09 15:58             ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 16:43               ` davel
2001-10-10  8:49                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-10-10  8:49                 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-10  9:48                   ` davel
2001-10-11  9:10                     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-11 10:54                       ` davel
2001-10-12  9:19                         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-09 16:46               ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10  8:50                 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-10 10:29                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10  1:05               ` erik quanstrom
2001-10-10  2:15                 ` david presotto
2001-10-10  4:54                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-10-10  8:30                 ` davel
2001-10-08 10:34       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-10-08  9:50   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-08 11:13     ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-08  9:42 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-08 17:43 ` [9fans] rewriting paths [was: mv vs cp] Richard Uhtenwoldt
2001-08-18  7:38 [9fans] Sam question nigel
2001-08-18  8:31 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-08-20  8:57   ` Luis Fernandes
2001-08-20 11:10     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-18 11:06 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-19  6:57 ` Lucio De Re
2001-08-19 10:54   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-19 11:13     ` Lucio De Re
2001-08-19 12:02       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-19 12:23         ` Lucio De Re
2001-08-19 16:17           ` Steve Kilbane
2001-08-19 20:57 ` Dan Cross
2000-11-13 20:19 [9fans] AFS-client for Plan9 - ? anothy
2000-11-14  9:58 ` Wladimir Mutel
     [not found]   ` <mwg@alkar.net>
2000-11-14 22:33     ` Tom Duff
2000-11-14 22:41       ` Boyd Roberts
2000-11-14 22:41       ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-14 22:51         ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]           ` <boyd@planete.net>
2000-11-14 23:02             ` Tom Duff
2000-11-20 10:55           ` Chris Locke
2000-11-20 10:56           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-11-20 13:24             ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]         ` <viro@math.psu.edu>
2000-11-14 23:00           ` Tom Duff
2000-11-14 23:15             ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-14 23:54           ` Tom Duff
2000-11-15  0:31             ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-15  0:38               ` Boyd Roberts
2000-11-01 20:47 [9fans] /n/smtp Russ Cox
2000-11-01 21:48 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-11-01 22:02   ` Boyd Roberts
2000-11-01 22:10     ` Scott Schwartz
2000-11-01 22:23       ` Boyd Roberts
2000-07-12  9:04 [9fans] file server problems ianb
2000-07-13  1:33 ` Eric Dorman
2000-07-13  2:28   ` Eric Dorman
2000-07-13  4:15     ` Lucio De Re
2000-07-13  4:33       ` Scott Schwartz
2000-07-13 12:19         ` Lucio De Re

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