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From: Christoph Paschke <c.paschke@me.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:25:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35d49736-f6d5-48fc-b767-969185bda226@me.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120319121055.GA3610@polynum.com>

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Am 19. März 2012 um 13:10 schrieb tlaronde@polynum.com:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:47:46PM +0100, Paschke Christoph wrote:
> 
> I also got some idea to get engaged with Minix especially according to the idea of the Microkernel and the reincarnation drivers etc. But one part I got shocked was the amount of RAM this system needs for nearly nothing and also the missing of nearly each hardware support. So, at Plan 9 you see the old profs around the Bell Labs at work if you compare that both systems.

Many years ago, I was attracted to "microkernel" by the very word,
thinking it was a "small" resources thing, that one could extend when
needed and only with what was needed. And the "big" surprise with
"micro" kernel is that they are huge; don't perform well unless a huge
amount is written in... assembly etc.
 
Yes, this I also got the idea in comparison and wonder about! 



And I don't know if my english is at fault, but the paper about Plan9 
seems to me to make fun of this academic frenzy about these huge 
resources hog called microkernels, and that Plan9 can not attract such 
attention and so many papers since it is not in the trend, and does the
job while being small...

If the U.E. has selected Minix, then it's sure: it's a dead end... They
have this gift (helped with lobbying) to always choose the wrong
direction.
 
Could be or not, who knows? 
Most cases EU does central shit, already called EUdSSR here in Germany what is other word for EU-SowjetUnion.
It is not chosen by the people, it has it's apparatchics at the head that regulates everything more and more ...

But as I understood Minix should be in first be a new realization of an industrial POSIX operating system in Europe and an educational system. I see Minix with the old webpage still before the embedded exhibition in Nuernberg and before this EU-Project started. So, this is going fast forward already. And they already looking for industrial partners. So, I as a potential client in the industrial area can work together with them quite easy. I not know if this will be similar with Plan 9 next years?

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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-16 19:17 Anthony Sorace
2012-03-16 19:36 ` tlaronde
2012-03-18 20:30   ` ron minnich
     [not found]   ` <CAP6exYJu1YTDWQK58cnD9T2235iaSXzphpXVTEW_6VogV3F+Sg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-18 20:35     ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-18 22:06       ` Joseph Stewart
2012-03-18 22:20         ` John Floren
2012-03-18 22:39           ` Joseph Stewart
2012-03-18 23:49             ` John Floren
     [not found]             ` <CAL4LZyhpc=qJVNeBCX2uPLkFeD4tLGYUBPtwiDu3WWS3uqrHPg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  0:37               ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  1:33                 ` Calvin Morrison
     [not found]                 ` <CAJFUHyUv=F5PrLAn4eae_28u-oinycPGPWJwVLhS552O1+LFJg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  2:04                   ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  2:09                     ` Calvin Morrison
2012-03-19  8:47                       ` tlaronde
2012-03-19  4:07                     ` Tristan
     [not found]                 ` <CAJFUHyUv=F5PrLAn4eae_28u-oinycPGPWJwVLhS552O1+LFJg@>
     [not found]                   ` <CAJFUHyVQEO8a9uEqc8=zsh725Z_=sq-zBCvZEVTrdrsdOznszQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  2:16                     ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  2:40                       ` Calvin Morrison
2012-03-19  3:15                         ` andrew zerger
2012-03-19 18:21                       ` steve
2012-03-19 15:50         ` [9fans] Summer of Plan 9 Anthony Sorace
2012-03-19 16:40           ` tlaronde
2012-03-19  9:35   ` [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012 faif
2012-03-19 11:47     ` Paschke Christoph
2012-03-19 12:10       ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 14:25         ` Christoph Paschke [this message]
2012-03-19 16:26           ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 16:30             ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19 16:52               ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 19:53               ` Christoph Paschke
2012-03-19 22:08                 ` Jacob Todd
2012-03-19 22:22                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2012-03-19 23:07                     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-03-19 23:24                       ` Bruce Ellis
2012-03-20  8:25                         ` Paschke Christoph
2012-03-20  9:17                           ` Bruce Ellis
     [not found]                     ` <CAOw7k5iJzhaX-TuCiNtvwM0=XqUK5oZG4cUV2g9DkbKJ=65YCg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19 23:21                       ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19 14:50       ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-20  9:54 ` faif
2012-03-27 17:11 ` Anthony Sorace
2012-03-28  5:24   ` erik quanstrom

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