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From: Paschke Christoph <c.paschke@me.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:25:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BE057E3D-B8C7-45F2-98F7-889A9BF957F7@me.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJQxxwk8sWxt36mjd-rCvuXH-t9z2av0bX3t+30W--3N40R2+g@mail.gmail.com>

In 3 weeks I need work together with Italians because of a machine control and the optimization system behind.
It's already difficult to work together and you can imagine English is already a good way communication works.
Although, in real, it is still difficult to understand the italian english and probably same with me that the italians understand my german english.
French and Swiss boarders are just some km away ... This multinational mix is a problem in EU.

And this not only means the language, it also means so much other things. For example, the culture differences and problems with history.
So, I remember some years ago, I had to work together with polish people at a project. I speak russian and therefore I starting to speak with them russian what they can understand very well. They told me: What you speak russian to us, we not living in soviet union anymore. And I answered: You can speak German? NO! What you expect me to speak english, we not living in USA the same. And such is ONLY an example of the intercultural problems because for example the polish people living historically between the hate to russians and the hate to the germans. And if you need work together such way, can be very exhausting and many projects fails.

But this is ONLY another example. It becomes also with knowledge very confusing. So, you cannot expect to have one standard to work on. One do such way, other do other way. One knows this way, other knows other way. EU is like the babel tower. And I think that other QUITE homogenous nations like USA cannot understand that chaos.

If you buy all you need from your own's company's nation like in former times this is no problem.
But if nations working together in such "small scale" as it becomes now more and more reality, it is difficult in many cases.

And in this way, I already get the feeling that the EU-project behind the Mini-X is a trial to a machine-control-fundamental that can be quite unique over Europe once a day.
How much this is real, how much this will be, who knows? Maybe if Mini-X evolves, the governmental offers of EU will dictate Mini-X as the standard that need be fulfilled. I think in US it was similar procedure with Ada programing language and military hardware etc.

I can imagine this is the background of the Mini-X project. Why not Linux? Probably because it is already to much chaos and you cannot come back to the fundamentals anymore that you can expect each nation in EU to get learned, understood ... Coming back to a structured base that also is planed to get teached in schools is maybe the way to solve this problem.

But what I speak about Mini-X so much in Plan 9 forum? I got lost a little bit in thoughts about it because of the GSoC and EU support for it. So, in real we speak about Plan 9 here, I know! Therefore last part from me about that comparative issue. Nobody knows how things will come. If people would know, probably Plan 9 would be the follower of Unix, but it didn't come that way!

Am 20.03.2012 um 00:24 schrieb Bruce Ellis:

> Even Shaney is having trouble with these fish of the trees, tho he
> would like to borrow "Most cases EU does central shit".
> 
> brucee
> 
> On 20 March 2012 10:07, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/plug-versus-plug-49303764/
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 March 2012 22:22, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> damn electric sockets! *shakes fist of impotent rage*
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-20  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-16 19:17 Anthony Sorace
2012-03-16 19:36 ` tlaronde
2012-03-18 20:30   ` ron minnich
     [not found]   ` <CAP6exYJu1YTDWQK58cnD9T2235iaSXzphpXVTEW_6VogV3F+Sg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-18 20:35     ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-18 22:06       ` Joseph Stewart
2012-03-18 22:20         ` John Floren
2012-03-18 22:39           ` Joseph Stewart
2012-03-18 23:49             ` John Floren
     [not found]             ` <CAL4LZyhpc=qJVNeBCX2uPLkFeD4tLGYUBPtwiDu3WWS3uqrHPg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  0:37               ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  1:33                 ` Calvin Morrison
     [not found]                 ` <CAJFUHyUv=F5PrLAn4eae_28u-oinycPGPWJwVLhS552O1+LFJg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  2:04                   ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  2:09                     ` Calvin Morrison
2012-03-19  8:47                       ` tlaronde
2012-03-19  4:07                     ` Tristan
     [not found]                 ` <CAJFUHyUv=F5PrLAn4eae_28u-oinycPGPWJwVLhS552O1+LFJg@>
     [not found]                   ` <CAJFUHyVQEO8a9uEqc8=zsh725Z_=sq-zBCvZEVTrdrsdOznszQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19  2:16                     ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19  2:40                       ` Calvin Morrison
2012-03-19  3:15                         ` andrew zerger
2012-03-19 18:21                       ` steve
2012-03-19 15:50         ` [9fans] Summer of Plan 9 Anthony Sorace
2012-03-19 16:40           ` tlaronde
2012-03-19  9:35   ` [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012 faif
2012-03-19 11:47     ` Paschke Christoph
2012-03-19 12:10       ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 14:25         ` Christoph Paschke
2012-03-19 16:26           ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 16:30             ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19 16:52               ` tlaronde
2012-03-19 19:53               ` Christoph Paschke
2012-03-19 22:08                 ` Jacob Todd
2012-03-19 22:22                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2012-03-19 23:07                     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-03-19 23:24                       ` Bruce Ellis
2012-03-20  8:25                         ` Paschke Christoph [this message]
2012-03-20  9:17                           ` Bruce Ellis
     [not found]                     ` <CAOw7k5iJzhaX-TuCiNtvwM0=XqUK5oZG4cUV2g9DkbKJ=65YCg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-03-19 23:21                       ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-19 14:50       ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-20  9:54 ` faif
2012-03-27 17:11 ` Anthony Sorace
2012-03-28  5:24   ` erik quanstrom

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