From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <DAGwyn@null.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] User Interface
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:28:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B7AD02B.6281DDB7@null.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B793F22.5080707@xs4all.nl>
Eric de Redelijkheid wrote:
> > disk/kfscmd halt
> > Ctl+Alt+Del
> > (switch it off)
> This procedure is absurd. What is wrong with a command like ' shutdown'.
All you have to do is put "disk/kfscmd halt" into an rc file "shutdown".
Mine is called "halt", which is about as much an improvement to your
suggestion as your suggestion is to the "hard way".
> Why not a button for a system shutdown?
Why should there be one? That leads to a myriad of buttons for all
sorts of trivial things, which is *not* good user interface design.
> Or a whole sentence: ' please, shutdown the system for power down'.
"Open the pod bay doors, Hal."
"I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave. You didn't say 'please'."
> What is a snarf? Should an ordinairy user like me concern myself with
> words I can't find in the dictionary (if it is a word in a dictionary, I
> have a very cheap one). The fact that it is made by the same people as
> UNIX tells you nothing about interface design. The existence the old
> style man pages are an indication.
UNIX-style man pages, properly used, are a very effective means of
organizing and presenting usage information.
> ... I can not work with sam or acme. In linux, I can hardly work with vi;
> ... I refuse to work with emacs.
Then please go away. Plan 9, like UNIX, is for tool users, not
barbarians.
> Instinctively I click (left button) this cross, ...
Read the instructions.
There is *no* window manager in general use that is "intuitive"; if
you think there is, it's only because it is similar to some other WM
with which you already have some familiarity.
> Without a good and simple easy to use user interface, plan 9 will never
> be adopted. And the whole effort would have been a pointless exercise.
Adopted by whom? You don't seem to understand the point of the
exercise.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-16 8:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-14 10:02 nigel
2001-08-14 10:27 ` Lucio De Re
2001-08-14 12:45 ` pac
2001-08-15 8:34 ` Eric de Redelijkheid
2001-08-15 10:29 ` Re[2]: " Matt
2001-08-16 0:59 ` Micah Stetson
2001-08-15 23:25 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-16 8:28 ` Douglas A. Gwyn [this message]
[not found] ` <200108151619.MAA07420@augusta.math.psu.edu>
2001-08-16 8:28 ` Eric de Redelijkheid
2001-08-16 10:26 ` Re[2]: " Matt
2001-08-16 10:43 ` Eric de Redelijkheid
2001-08-16 11:10 ` Re[2]: " Matt
2001-08-16 19:29 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-08-16 20:40 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-17 8:50 ` mark powers
2001-08-17 8:49 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-23 15:35 Vincent van Gelderen
2001-08-20 15:02 Re[2]: " anothy
2001-08-22 21:25 ` Matthew Hannigan
2001-08-23 2:24 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-23 15:04 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-23 20:17 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-23 20:17 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-23 21:35 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-23 21:49 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-24 13:04 ` David Lukes
2001-08-23 20:17 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-17 11:17 forsyth
2001-08-16 1:00 okamoto
2001-08-16 5:56 ` Fariborz 'Skip' Tavakkolian
2001-08-15 14:20 bwc
2001-08-15 17:13 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-15 13:27 Peter Bosch
2001-08-15 12:46 rob pike
2001-08-15 16:35 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-14 17:58 bwc
2001-08-14 19:09 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-08-14 17:13 anothy
2001-08-15 17:06 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-08-14 16:53 forsyth
[not found] <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-08-14 12:54 ` rob pike
2001-08-14 15:01 ` James A. Robinson
2001-08-16 13:45 ` phaet0n
2001-08-20 8:57 ` Randolph Fritz
2001-08-14 9:46 Eric de Redelijkheid
2001-08-14 13:15 ` John Murdie
2001-08-15 13:23 ` William K. Josephson
2001-08-16 21:04 ` Boyd Roberts
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