From: Wes Kussmaul <wes@village.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] MS Research reinvents Inferno?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:43:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <439F0826.2030309@village.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <439EFB7D.4050205@lanl.gov>
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> There are no real new ideas in CS popping around at this point, so we
> are reduced to recycling each other's socks. So it goes. We're in an
> evolutionary, not a revoluationary, business. This may be permanent, it
> is hard to tell.
Minutes ago I got a message from a journalist friend with just the
subject _New OS Announced_ and a link:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb321987.htm
So ok, you needn't bother following that, it points to a press release
by a white box pc vendor announcing that you can buy their computers
with the new AX5 operating system that looks and works like Windows and
opens MS Office files and runs this long list of Windows programs.
In other words it's some flavor of Linux with WINE and probably Open
Office 2.0 and some hastily gimped graphics.
But to my friend it's a NEW OS!
Here's the thing. If someone has found a way to educate him to the fact
that he can have these things and finds a way to get him using it, then
indeed it IS a new OS.
So Ron, you say there's nothing new in CS, that we're just recycling
each others' socks. How about combining socks with shirt and pants and
offering a whole wardrobe? If that doesn't qualify as CS then so what?
It's making computers more useful to people who don't know a lot about
how they work.
With some effort and especially some imagination, someone could deliver
something to my friend that not only emulates Windows but delivers much
more than he ever knew he could have. How about a bounded online space
where he can share files with his friends around the world with a fair
degree of security? How about keeping DLL-land in its outdoor space,
leaving it to its buffer overflows etc. but having an InDoor space a few
keystrokes away?
I once read an article about companies selling specialized vehicles
complaining about how their competitor had just put some special purpose
equipment on a plain vanilla truck chassis and called it a specialized
vehicle. A customer was then quoted saying how he preferred the latter
not only because it was cheaper but that maintenance of the truck part
was a commodity skill, parts were readily available etc. and it was just
fine with him that someone found a way to quickly cobble something new
out of readily available pieces. That, it seems to me, qualifies as
truck science. But even if it doesn't it was probably a very fun thing
to do. Sort of like finding a way to put Linux in ROM and replacing the
stupid BIOS with it.
--
Wes Kussmaul
CIO
The Village Group
738 Main Street
Waltham, MA 02451
781-647-7178
My uncle likes to say that the world’s biggest troubles started when the
serpent said, “Try this fruit, and by the way if a bunch of people
collectively calling themselves Arthur Andersen signs something it’s the
same as if a person named Arthur Andersen signed it.” I don’t get the
serpent and fruit part. Must be some Swiss mythology thing. He can be a
bit obscure.
P.K. Iggy
_How I Like Fixed The Internet_
(Tales from the Great Infodepression of 2009
and the prosperity that followed)
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2005-12-13 7:02 Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13 7:13 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2005-12-13 8:50 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 15:04 ` Kenneth Long
2005-12-13 12:26 ` Sergey Zhilkin
2005-12-13 16:26 ` LiteStar numnums
2005-12-13 16:30 ` Paul Lalonde
2005-12-13 16:39 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-13 16:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 17:54 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13 16:49 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-13 16:57 ` Lucio De Re
2005-12-13 17:02 ` alexandr babic
2005-12-13 17:43 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-13 17:56 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 20:19 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 20:52 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-14 2:12 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14 2:19 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14 10:02 ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14 4:01 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-12-13 17:56 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-13 18:07 ` alexandr babic
2005-12-14 0:02 ` Steve Simon
2005-12-14 9:42 ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14 10:09 ` C H Forsyth
2005-12-13 18:16 ` William Josephson
2005-12-13 20:46 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 21:05 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14 2:05 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-13 18:45 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-13 18:50 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-13 18:55 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-13 19:02 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14 6:30 ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14 7:16 ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14 10:07 ` Richard Miller
2005-12-13 20:49 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 22:09 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-12-13 21:20 ` LiteStar numnums
2005-12-13 21:54 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 20:18 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14 5:56 ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14 6:02 ` Lucio De Re
2005-12-14 9:50 ` Steve Simon
2005-12-14 6:05 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14 6:14 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-12-14 9:28 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14 7:29 ` Andriy G. Tereshchenko
2005-12-14 14:49 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14 10:11 ` Richard Miller
2005-12-14 11:00 ` Russ Cox
2005-12-14 12:47 ` erik quanstrom
2005-12-14 15:06 ` Brantley Coile
2005-12-14 16:20 ` C H Forsyth
2005-12-14 22:00 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 17:14 ` David Leimbach
2005-12-13 18:13 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-14 3:05 ` erik quanstrom
2005-12-13 17:43 ` Wes Kussmaul [this message]
2005-12-13 18:04 ` Bakul Shah
2005-12-13 18:15 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-12-13 20:04 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-12-14 5:02 ` Jack Johnson
2005-12-14 12:26 ` LiteStar numnums
[not found] ` <000401c5ffe3$22447ce0$14aaa8c0@utelsystems.local>
2005-12-13 13:01 ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
2005-12-13 16:36 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-12-14 15:42 Brian L.Stuart
2005-12-14 16:20 ` Paweł Lasek
2005-12-14 19:14 Brian L.Stuart
2005-12-14 20:06 Brian L.Stuart
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